[Qgis-psc] [QGIS-Developer] LTR management [was Re: Delaying 3.10.1?]

Sun Nov 24 00:46:40 PST 2019

Hi

Also Jürgen and Nyall: is there anything the PSC could be funding to help you allocate the time needed to help get things to a good conclusion? PSC this is IMHO be a better use of overflow funds right now than e.g. windows CI infrastructure.

Regards

Tim

> On 24 Nov 2019, at 04:13, Nyall Dawson <nyall.dawson at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> On Sun, 24 Nov 2019 at 02:38, Jürgen E. Fischer <jef at norbit.de> wrote:
> 
> 
>>> So overall how the situation was handled doesn't seem that bad for a release
>>> exercising new major dependencies.
> 
> Agreed.
> 
> I'd also like to extend Tim's thanks here and publicly state my
> appreciation to Jürgen for an extremely difficult, thankless job which
> you've done SO well, SO consistently and for SO long.
> 
> (And also +1 to whoever said that this was **always** going to be a
> very tricky transition for the opensource geo world.It's a good thing,
> but thanks to proj6 the entire software stack has been *forced* to
> mature and adapt to modern, accurate projection handling and it's
> causing/caused pain all round. At least we're mostly through the worst
> now and it's now the users and geospatial analysts who are being
> forced to mature and skill up as a consequence! And all those "data
> scientists" who blundered around thinking spatial was just numeric x/y
> coordinates have an even worse learning curve inbound...!)
> 
> Moving forward, I'm thinking/wondering:
> 
> Regarding 3.10.1: there's been some work in GDAL and PROJ which may
> help resolve the issue which triggered this discussion. I'll test
> tomorrow. I also think there's potential hacky workaround we could
> implement if we avoid re-using existing PROJ context objects in
> certain places (albeit with a performance hit as a result), which I'm
> going to explore tomorrow as a band-aid so that we can unblock the
> release.
> 
> Regarding 3.4: One option we should explore is just freezing the
> Windows releases at 3.4.13, and leaving 3.4.13 as the final supported
> 3.4 release for Windows. (For reference, 3.4.16 is the planned final
> 3.4.x release, so we'd "lose" 3 months of supported new releases). I'd
> personally be +1 to this, given that the existing infrastructure
> cannot be easily modified to allow a proj4 based build, and adding
> this support is far from trivial. While it's not ideal, I think
> finalizing the Windows releases at 3.4.13 is much less risk and better
> for our users then risking projection handling issues. (For full
> disclosure of information I've included a list of fixes as [1] which
> are included in 3.4.14 at the time of writing which would NOT be
> available for Windows users as a result)
> 
> 
> Nyall
> 
> [1]
> QgsVectorFileWriter: fix axis order issue with GDAL 3 (fixes #33014)
> Merge pull request #33003 from rldhont/backport-32800-to-release-3_4
> Fix broken QMap<QVariantList,...> finding, which causes
> case-insensitive comparisons to be made when resolving primary keys in
> the Oracle and Postgres providers
> [Server] Update WMS GetProjectSettings tests for round extent in GetCapabilities
> [Server] Test WCS Access Control: update comment
> [Server] Update WCS tests for round extent in GetCapabilities
> [Server] Update WMS tests for round extent in GetCapabilities
> [Server] Update WFS tests for round extent in GetCapabilities
> [Server] Update WMTS tests for round extent in GetCapabilities
> [Server] tests: Add masks
> [Bugfix][Server] Use floor and ceil for round extent coordinates in
> services capabilities
> [Bugfix][Server] Correctly round extent coordinates in services capabilities
> Wrong label in UI for "Create point for each part" on "Centroids"
> processing algorithm #32940 - Backport to 3.4
> debian packaging: python-gdal still needed for gdal python scripts
> Merge pull request #32749 from qgis/backport-32743-to-release-3_4
> database style manager: translatable & title case
> custom widgets: fix designer crash (fixes #32860)
> debian packaging: drop python-gdal dependency (closes #32835) [ci skip]
> qgsfunction: replace deprecated inspect.getargspec() to inspect.getfullargspec()
> oracle provider: log when ROWID is used for a missing primary key
> (closes #32648)
> also track newer CIFS
> translation string fix
> Merge pull request #32460 from alexbruy/backport-32455-to-release-3_4
> osgeo4w: fix nightlies (followup 766149b1b6)
> In case it is needed: Update Rasterize.py for 3.4 (backport of master commit)
> Update CreateConstantRaster.py
> Merge pull request #32793 from
> rldhont/fix-server-wfs-add-primary-keys-to-request-for-fid-34
> osgeo4w: build with proj 6 and gdal 3
> Fix const
> [Bugfix][Server] WFS: Add primary keys to request to build Server Feature Id
> Fix PG 12 constraints check (provider side)
> Fix crash when deactivating vertex editor (fixes #32685)
> Fix postgis 12 adscr -> adbin consrc -> conbin
> "fix" gdal_calc creation options
> Merge pull request #32572 from qgis/backport-32527-to-release-3_4
> osgeo4w: detect grass78
> [RPM] Update sip references in spec file
> Fix copy items from value map configuration
> [processing] allow to select files without suffix in the Processing
> options dialog
> fix wronng paste
> fix SAGA Slope, Aspect, Curvature
> dwg/dxf import: * fix orientation of TEXT entities * also clean TEXT
> strings * support non-origin-based blocks * support extrusion
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
>> 
>> Thank you.
>> 
>>> …
>> 
>> If i had to run this through a committee first, probably nothing of the above
>> had happend yet and I wouldn't have time left to actually do it.
>> 
>> 
>> Jürgen
>> 
>> 
>> PS: Windows CI status:
>> * appveyor: still times out (after 4 years the limit of 1h still isn't enough)
>> * azure pipelines: runs out of disk space (limit 10GB)
>> 
>> PPS: I also need something to punch ;)
>> 
>> --
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