[Qgis-psc] QGIS on iOS was QGIS for Mobile (Android)

Wed Oct 16 05:26:56 PDT 2019

Here are some more examples:

https://github.com/torvalds/subsurface-for-dirk (the main developer seems
to have contributed to some other FOSS too! ;))

https://github.com/wordpress-mobile/WordPress-iOS

Regards
Saber

On Wed, 16 Oct 2019, 13:12 Marco Bernasocchi, <marco at opengis.ch> wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> Just moving the tread, and notice on VLC.
>
> Vlc on Appstore is NOT GPL [3] it is MPLv2
>
> VLC was re licensed to bi-license (MPLv2 and GPLv2+) [2] after an
> humongous work by Jean-Baptiste Kempf [0] after being removed by apple from
> the App store [1]. I'm no lawyer either and already got too many gray hair
> from thinking about this. It is the main reason why we never focused on iOS
> with QField.
>
> Fortunately as Martin sait iOS != Appstore and there are alternatives.
>
> Cheers
>
> Marco
>
>
> [0]
> http://www.jbkempf.com/blog/post/2012/How-to-properly-relicense-a-large-open-source-project
>
> [1]
> http://obamapacman.com/2011/01/vicious-nokia-employee-gets-vlc-removed-from-apple-app-store/
>
> [2] https://www.videolan.org/vlc/download-ios.html
>
> [3] https://www.videolan.org/press/ios2out.html
> On 16.10.19 13:11, Tim Sutton wrote:
>
> Hi Vincent
>
> On 16 Oct 2019, at 11:19, Vincent Picavet (ml) <vincent.ml at oslandia.com>
> wrote:
>
> Hello,
>
>
> On 15/10/2019 17:10, Saber Razmjooei wrote:
>
> Hi Paolo,
>
> What should we exactly join up to? :)
>
> Current QGIS code repository offers the platform to collaborate. Here
> are some of the example of our recent works to make QGIS touch library
> (on the back of great work from OpenGIS) and static providers:
> https://github.com/qgis/QGIS-Enhancement-Proposals/issues/109
> https://github.com/qgis/QGIS-Enhancement-Proposals/issues/149
>
> Additionally, we extended the SDK to support compilation of QGIS on iOS.
>
>
> As far as I know, and under the disclaimer "not a lawyer", GPLv2+
> applications are not allowed on the app store.
>
> There are many levels of decisions required here :
> A/ do we want to distribute our software on a platform which is clearly
> hostile to the licence we use ? GPL hostility from Apple is something
> which can not be denied.
>
>
> For me the answer is ‘yes’ - I think we can make access to the source
> code, build processes etc. clear and easy for any user from within their
> app and by providing the app in the iOS we do not remove any of their basic
> freedoms.
>
>
> B/ if so, is the distribution of a GPLv2+ software on the app store even
> legal ? This is not as clear as it could
>
>
> It seems to be ok for VLC and most likely many others:
>
> https://www.videolan.org/legal.html
> https://apps.apple.com/us/app/vlc-for-mobile/id650377962
>
>
> C/ if B has not be verified and stated as valid, is QGIS.org
> <http://qgis.org/> and the
> QGIS project ready to take a legal risk, officially endorsing a GPL
> application distributed on the app store ?
>
>
> Let’s first establish that there is a risk.
>
>
>
> In our current knowledge, I would strongly be against QGIS.org
> <http://qgis.org/> and the
> QGIS project supporting officially the iOS version of any software based
> on QGIS. The legal risk is too high.
>
>
> I would be strongly in favour of finding a way to get it into the App
> Store for the simple pragmatic reason of wanting as many people as possible
> to be able to freely use QGIS and its derivatives on whichever platform
> they choose.
>
> Regards
>
> Tim
>
>
>
>
> Should a study by an IP lawyer be made and published, that could ease a
> decision. But I guess the cost would be quite high. If it validates
> point B, then we would still have point A to evaluate.
>
>
>
> I had raised 2 questions in my initial email and would be interested to
> see how those scenarios would be handled if QField becomes the official
> QGIS mobile (Android) app?
>
>
> Saber, as for question 2, I would personally be in favor of a plugin
> system to access the mergin freemium service, for QField (or any app
> endorsed by the QGIS project), instead of a core pull request. It would
> also ease the maintenance.
> If this system is optional in the installation, I have no argument
> against having an official QGIS project application support it.
> Especially if opensource alternatives exist.
>
> Best regards,
>
> Vincent
>
>
> Also a note about Input and data synchronisation, you can use your USB
> cable, Bluetooth, wifi, ... to sync the data and there is no need for
> our service. In the same way, you can completely avoid Oracle
> database data provider and use your PostGIS or Shapefile.
>
> Regards
> Saber
>
>
>
> On Tue, 15 Oct 2019 at 15:43, Paolo Cavallini <cavallini at faunalia.it
> <mailto:cavallini at faunalia.it <cavallini at faunalia.it>>> wrote:
>
>    Hi all,
>
>    On 15/10/19 16:30, Tim Sutton wrote:
>
> That sounds like a very good approach to me too.
>
> I think Marco was also talking about having QField main repo moved to
> the QGIS.org <http://qgis.org/> <http://QGIS.org <http://qgis.org/>>
> GitHub repo (correct Marco?). Though I
> don’t think this needs to be a pre-requisite to being listed on
>
>    the QGIS
>
> download page.
>
>
>    I think we are all on the same line here. Of course we'll treat all
>    projects equally, so all other parts of QGIS broader ecosystem are
>    welcome to start discussing the steps to join.
>    Regards.
>
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