[Qgis-psc] News feed

Thu Oct 31 03:14:51 PDT 2019

Hi,

On 10/31/19 11:05 AM, Andreas Neumann wrote:
> Hi Marco,
>
> I wouldn't take it down. Let's show users some activity (it will 
> disappear anyway in 2 weeks when the event is gone). They can easily 
> ignore it, if they are not interested.

I would feel irritated if some software would show me news in Finnish. 
But I'll leave that to the PSC.

>
> Meanwhile: let's try to implement a way to get access to the user 
> location (coordinate or country). The server seems ready for 
> geofencing, but QGIS as a client not.
>
> What I don't understand: the QGIS news panel is technically a 
> web-browser - right? A web-browser send and IP and an IP can be 
> geolocalized by some external services (with some uncertainty of 
> course). Something along the lines of 
> https://docs.djangoproject.com/en/1.10/ref/contrib/gis/geoip/ - Would 
> this be possible?

Not even necessarily an external service only, there is also 
https://dev.maxmind.com/geoip/geoip2/geolite2/ , a local database which 
can be used to map ips to locations. This could be done server side 
only, whenever the client doesn't send a specific location.

Regarding dismiss/updating of entries, I currently see two different 
entries, one seems to be cached from an older release. Do we have a 
possibility to force-delete the first one from clients that already 
downloaded it? Or instead of deleting and recreating an entry if it 
contains wrong information to force-update an existing one?

Matthias

>
> Andreas
>
>
> On Thu, 31 Oct 2019 at 10:55, Marco Bernasocchi <marco at qgis.org 
> <mailto:marco at qgis.org>> wrote:
>
>     Hi Andreas, it looks like it is like you say. I tried by using
>     some vpns and by changing the system location and I always see the
>     german announce.
>
>     We should probably take it down for now to avoid people getting
>     the feeling the news are irelewant toi them
>
>     Cheers Marco
>
>     On 31.10.19 08:29, Andreas Neumann wrote:
>>     Hi,
>>
>>     Does that mean that despite my adding of geofencing around
>>     Switzerland, now everybody sees my german news item about the
>>     Postgis day in Zurich?
>>
>>     Theoretically, I could use the language filter, but the language
>>     filter is not so desirable in my opinion, because I know an awful
>>     lot of QGIS users in Switzerland who have set the language to
>>     english - just because they know english well and all of them
>>     wouldn't see the news item if they switched to english.
>>
>>     Thanks and greetings,
>>     Andreas
>>
>>     On Thu, 31 Oct 2019 at 06:30, Nyall Dawson
>>     <nyall.dawson at gmail.com <mailto:nyall.dawson at gmail.com>> wrote:
>>
>>         On Wed, 30 Oct 2019 at 16:33, Tim Sutton <tim at kartoza.com
>>         <mailto:tim at kartoza.com>> wrote:
>>         >
>>         > Hi
>>         >
>>         > I would include user survey announcements in this list - it
>>         was one of the key reasons we introduced the feed. We want to
>>         get to know our user base, what their concerns are and usage
>>         habits are. Inviting them to join opt-in surveys and sharing
>>         project news through the feed are a good way to achieve that.
>>         >
>>         >
>>         > I disagree a bit on 1 and 2 - Ale introduced a geofencing
>>         capability for the news feed so for example Australian User
>>         Group meeting can be shown to just people in Australia. Posts
>>         can also be language specific. I think we should accept any
>>         local announcement post after PSC approval and keep the rule
>>         as simple as that?
>>
>>         It's not that simple. The backend has support for geofencing,
>>         but we
>>         currently don't have any way to geolocate users to take
>>         advantage of
>>         this (aside from manually setting a qsetting value to your
>>         location).
>>         So we'd first need a way to locate users... which would be
>>         super-useful anyway, e.g. to allow project templates shipped
>>         with QGIS
>>         to open by default somewhere close to the user's location...
>>
>>         Nyall
>>
>>
>>
>>         >
>>         >
>>         > We had also agreed that we don’t want to include general
>>         planet.qgis.org <http://planet.qgis.org> feed in there, but
>>         rather use the platform to share what goes into our blog and
>>         other moderated content.
>>         >
>>         >
>>         > PS. Sponsorships are dead, long live sustaining members :-)
>>         >
>>         >
>>         > Regards
>>         >
>>         > Tim
>>         >
>>         > On 30 Oct 2019, at 06:14, Paolo Cavallini
>>         <cavallini at faunalia.it <mailto:cavallini at faunalia.it>> wrote:
>>         >
>>         > Hi all,
>>         > AFAIK we don't have a clear policy about the news feed. I
>>         propose to
>>         > accept only:
>>         > 1. global Contributors Meetings announcements (not local ones)
>>         > 2. global QGIS Days (not local ones)
>>         > 3. requests for sponsorship
>>         > 4. crowdfunding announcements
>>         > To be included, each 3 and 4 entry have to be accepted by
>>         the majority
>>         > of PSC
>>         > After a first period (6 months), according to user
>>         feedback, we can
>>         > re-evaluate these guidelines.
>>         > Opinions?
>>         > Cheers.
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