[Qgis-psc] AGM: plugins vote

Fri Apr 10 04:53:25 PDT 2020

Thanks Vincent.

Il 10/04/20 12:48, Alessandro Pasotti ha scritto:
> Great summary Vincent!
> 
> I totally subscribe it.
> 
> Thank you.
> 
> On Fri, Apr 10, 2020 at 11:55 AM Vincent Picavet (ml)
> <vincent.ml at oslandia.com> wrote:
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> I have commented on the Github issue on the topic, but I wanted to stress one
>> specific point here :
>>
>> - I do not think that this topic is appropriate for an AGM vote in its current
>> state.
>>
>>
>> I think there are implications on this issue which are currently not detailed
>> enough to be able to take a decision taking enough parameters into account.
>>
>> To be clear, I even think the questions asked are not the right ones. In my
>> opinions better questions would be more in the terms of :
>> - Do QGIS.org want to distribute third-party software, and under what conditions ?
>> - Who would take responsibility in case of problem ( legal issue, major security
>> flaw ) ?
>> - Do we want to re-develop a software deployment system ? What are the
>> alternatives ?
>> - How much work each decision would require and who would do it with what funding ?
>>
>> Legal implications are also not clear enough to take a decision.
>>
>> QGIS has evolved into a large opensource project and community, for the best. We
>> deliver software to hundred of thousands of users, which is great.
>> But it comes with a cost : more responsibility, less agility, strictness and not
>> being able to fulfill everyone's desires...
>>
>> We also have to keep in mind that QGIS now serves as a model of opensource /
>> libre software development. Other projects are looking at us, our organization,
>> our choices, and are influenced by them.
>> We have to take that into account, and consider our context, the ecosystem, the
>> opensource movement, because we have an impact on it.
>> Therefore, we have to be a good opensource citizen, continue to promote the
>> global movement, and never compromise on core values and subjects.
>>
>> I will personnaly keep that in mind for all decisions made for and by the QGIS
>> project.
>>
>> I have the impression that this topic put light into some fundamental
>> divergences in the vision. If this is the case, we should focus on re-converging
>> on the vision, rather than taking side-decisions implying core values shifts
>> without having a debate on the global direction.
>>
>> Vincent
>>
>>
>> On 09/04/2020 01:03, Tim Sutton wrote:
>>> I added a proposed summary of all the drafts at the end of the thread in the
>>> ticket Paolo.
>>>
>>> Regards
>>>
>>> Tim
>>>
>>>> On 8 Apr 2020, at 20:08, Nyall Dawson <nyall.dawson at gmail.com
>>>> <mailto:nyall.dawson at gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, 9 Apr 2020 at 03:42, Paolo Cavallini <cavallini at faunalia.it
>>>> <mailto:cavallini at faunalia.it>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> By allowing plugins to be platform
>>>> specific we also open up the possibility to ship plugins which give
>>>> access to specific tools like the touch bar, a hardware piece that is
>>>> only available on mac.
>>>>
>>>> Can I throw some more text to put at the end of this? I'd like to see
>>>> this become:
>>>>
>>>> "By allowing plugins to be platform
>>>> specific we also open up the possibility to ship plugins which give
>>>> access to specific tools like the touch bar, a hardware piece that is
>>>> only available on mac, or which are designed to interface with a 3rd party
>>>> software tool which is only available on limited platforms (e.g. a
>>>> hypothetical plugin designed to utilise AutoCAD SDK functionality into
>>>> QGIS)"
>>>>
>>>> Nyall
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks Alessandro for clarifying.
>>>>> The discussion period has already started, I'd like to send the email
>>>>> ASAP. Sorry to put pressure: any further comments? Matthias, are you OK
>>>>> with the reply from Alessandro?
>>>>> Cheers.
>>>>>
>>>>> Il 08/04/20 18:01, Alessandro Pasotti ha scritto:
>>>>>> The no-binary policy in the official repository has been enforced and
>>>>>> listed since day 1 , see https://plugins.qgis.org/publish/
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I'm not sure if the other rule about cross-platform has been written
>>>>>> down somewhere, I've always taken that one for granted.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I see no problems if a plug-in does its post-installation downloads though.
>>>>>
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