[Qgis-psc] [VOTE] Re: AGM voting: invalid votes

Sat May 2 02:20:20 PDT 2020

Hi,

I kind of compare our voting members with a parliament. Because voting 
members are representatives of other people, it is important that these 
votes are public and not anonymous. All votes of parliament members are 
public (at least in many countries). In Switzerland there is a website 
that publishes all votes of all parliament members: 
https://www.parlament.ch/de/ratsbetrieb/abstimmungen/wer-hat-wie-abgestimmt-im-nationalrat 
(available in german, french, italian - no english). There you can 
filter by party, topic, people, etc. - it is important that these votes 
are public, so one can decide which persons to re-elect or check if the 
voting member voted as promised to the people they represent.

I think anonymous voting would be important if all our end users would 
have a vote.

Does this make sense to you?

Even if we decided to go anonymous, this would be technically difficult 
as Tim said.

Andreas

Am 02.05.20 um 11:10 schrieb Tim Sutton:
> Hi
>
> For me I think everything is already transparent. If someone wants to 
> cross reference results we can share the spreadsheet and we share 
> already the methodology by which scores are calculated. We cannot 
> really have anonymity and accountability at the same time (e.g. we 
> need to be able to check that only valid users are making votes). 
> Although we could do something like give voters voting tokens or other 
> non descriptive identifiers so that we can’t directly see who voted 
> for who. Otherwise we could specify that all votes cast will be public 
> - which is about the most transparent we could be - maybe a nice idea? 
> Let's discuss at the PSC meeting rather on voting directly on this.
>
> Regards
>
> Tim
>
>> On 2 May 2020, at 09:59, Paolo Cavallini <cavallini at faunalia.it 
>> <mailto:cavallini at faunalia.it>> wrote:
>>
>> Hi Andreas, Marco,
>> thanks for taking care of this. Lesson learned for the future: we need
>> an electoral commission, made by non candidates which will guarantee the
>> transparency and coherence of the operation.
>> Also, I believe we must guarantee anonymity.
>> Please vote on this resolution.
>> Cheers.
>>
>> Il 02/05/20 10:38, Marco Bernasocchi ha scritto:
>>> Hi Andreas, thanks for asking them,
>>>
>>> did they resubmit?
>>>
>>> it is also possible for them to directly edit their forms if they don't
>>> want to resubmit, just let me know if they need help in getting the link
>>> for editing their answers.
>>>
>>> Cheers
>>>
>>> Marco
>>>
>>> On 29.04.20 09:51, Andreas Neumann wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Ok - I will ask these three people to resubmit.
>>>>
>>>> Andreas
>>>>
>>>> Am 29.04.20 um 08:55 schrieb Anita Graser:
>>>>>
>>>>> +1 for resubmit if feasible.
>>>>>
>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>
>>>>> Anita
>>>>>
>>>>> On 28.04.2020 22:20, Luigi Pirelli wrote:
>>>>>> IMHO "ask those people to resubmit"
>>>>>>
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>>>>>> On Tue, 28 Apr 2020 at 18:15, Andreas Neumann 
>>>>>> <a.neumann at carto.net <mailto:a.neumann at carto.net>
>>>>>> <mailto:a.neumann at carto.net>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>    Hi,
>>>>>>
>>>>>>    Our AGM voting form isn't bullet-proof. There are three votes that
>>>>>>    accepted myself as treasurer, but then again a second time as a
>>>>>>    regular
>>>>>>    PSC member.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>    Should we declare these votes as invalid or ask those people to
>>>>>>    resubmit
>>>>>>    and so the previous record can be deleted?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>    There might some tight results, so this can lead to different
>>>>>>    outcomes
>>>>>>    what we decide here.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>    Greetings,
>>>>>>
>>>>>>    Andreas
>>>>>>
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