[Qgis-psc] Handling the Travis CI situation

[Matthias Kuhn]

Hi all,

Thanks for making the call Nyall and doing the initial work Denis.

A little additional information to put Richard's mail into context.
The additional work is required even if we roll our own CI instance. It's
98% work with respect to dependencies which will also be updated there and
is not github workflow specific.

I hope this helps to take a good decision here

Best regards
Matthias


On Fri, Nov 6, 2020 at 9:05 AM Richard Duivenvoorde <rdmailings at duif.net>
wrote:

> On 11/6/20 8:07 AM, Nyall Dawson wrote:
>
> > Before we can make the switch and move away from Travis, we'll need to
> > update these tests and get as many of them passing as possible on
> > Github, and then handle the tricky job of backporting the test fixes
> > and Github action setup to the 3.16/3.10 branches.
> >
> > This is quite frankly a horrible job to do. It's going to be time
> > consuming, tedious, and require a LOT of very in depth understanding
> > of the QGIS code in order to make the correct decisions about whether
> > a particular difference in test results is revealing a real issue or
> > just a test which needs updating.
> >
> > I don't think any one individual will be able to do this, and am
> > raising the question with PSC of whether qgis.org is able to fund a
> > coordinated sprint effort for a crack team of devs to resolve this.
> > (I'd suggest Denis, Alessandro and Matthias would be the ideal
> > candidates, and I could probably squeeze in up to ~10 hours on this
> > too).
> >
> > My estimate is that we're looking at a total commitment of roughly
> > 10-12 developer days effort here. (Including the 3.10/3.16 backports)
>
> Playing devil's advocate here: 10-12 days is a reasonable amount of work
> money.
>
> Given Github is Microsoft/business owned, and we will stay/are heavy users
> of the 'free' stuff.
> We can only hope that it stays free for a longer time?
>
> Is there maybe a possibility to run Travis locally on (maybe some
> sponsorred) hardware?
> Or other CI-machineries maybe running on university-machines, of which the
> owners want to sponsor (we had several offerings for hardware in history).
>
> I'm very much aware that running your own CI server/software is hard (and
> not desireable I would say)! So my hope would be some company running
> Travis or other CI stuff already and just sponsoring some cycles to us...
> OR even sponsoring Travis for us?
>
> Given 10-12 days is (depending on hour rate) between 8K and 16K, and
> hearing (link??) that osgeo has a 4000 euro(?) license?
> It would also maybe be easier to let somebody sponsor us for some years?
> Maybe some big corporate user (looking into plugins and providers:
> Google's, SAP, ESA, ???)
>
> Regards,
>
> Richard Duivenvoorde
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