[Qgis-psc] [QGIS-Developer] QGIS budget 2023 RFC

[Paolo Cavallini]

Thanks Tim for clarifying.
Cheers.

On 5 December 2022 18:30:50 WET, Tim Sutton <tim at kartoza.com> wrote:
>Hi
>
>On Mon, Dec 5, 2022 at 3:31 PM Paolo Cavallini <cavallini at faunalia.it>
>wrote:
>
>> Sorry Tim, could you please be more explicit? Your answer is not very
>> understandable to me.
>>
>
>Sorry Paolo I meant to say that on reading Andreas & Raymond's messages, it
>does indeed seem to be the case that in general coders that are paid by
>QGIS receive a higher compensation than documentation writers, except in
>the case of the two funded positions where the reverse is true.
>
>Regards
>
>Tim
>
>
>
>
>> Thanks.
>>
>> On 5 December 2022 13:37:57 WET, Tim Sutton <tim at kartoza.com> wrote:
>> >Oh yes, apologies for the confusion all, I was referring only to the web
>> >dev and documentation writer posts in terms of pay equity. Maybe we have
>> >some work to do in other areas to make pay rates more equitable....
>> >
>> >Regards
>> >
>> >Tim
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >On Mon, Dec 5, 2022 at 1:25 PM Andreas Neumann <andreas at qgis.org> wrote:
>> >
>> >> Hi all,
>> >>
>> >> I think there might be a "misunderstanding" of "hourly rate" (documenter
>> >> vs developer) communicated vs "overall budget" (documenter vs sysadmin).
>> >>
>> >> The "hourly rate" for a documenter was indeed communicated to be
>> >> substantially lower (44 €) than the rate of a developer (110 €) - both
>> >> values for the year 2022, while Tim probably was referring to the
>> overall
>> >> budget of a documenter vs a sysadmin (also to be higher) for 2023, where
>> >> the overall budget of the documenter is substantially higher than the
>> >> budget for a sysadmin. But Tim probably wasn't comparing documentors vs.
>> >> developers.
>> >>
>> >> Tomorrow evening at 5pm (CET) there is the next PSC meeting. We can
>> invite
>> >> people interested in the discussion around hiring, wages, social
>> justice,
>> >> etc. to the meeting, so they can raise their concerns in person and
>> bring
>> >> in their ideas and contributions. Of course we want this to be a
>> >> transparent process. We will meet at https://meet.jit.si/QGIS-PSC
>> >>
>> >> Greetings,
>> >> Andreas
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> On Mon, 5 Dec 2022 at 13:39, Tim Sutton <tim at kartoza.com> wrote:
>> >>
>> >>> Hi
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> On Mon, Dec 5, 2022 at 11:15 AM Raymond Nijssen <r.nijssen at terglobo.nl
>> >
>> >>> wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>>> Are you sure, Tim? Cause that is not what Andreas wrote? Or have
>> things
>> >>>> suddenly been swapped this year? Just making sure.
>> >>>>
>> >>>
>> >>> Do you mean in reference to the salaries? Can you reference what
>> Andreas
>> >>> wrote that is in contradiction?
>> >>>
>> >>> Thanks!
>> >>>
>> >>> Regards
>> >>>
>> >>> Tim
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Kind regards,
>> >>>> Raymond
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>> On 24-11-2022 22:38, Tim Sutton wrote:
>> >>>> > Hi Jeff
>> >>>> >
>> >>>> > I am pleased to tell you: You have it wrong. The documentation
>> writer
>> >>>> > will get the higher rate and the developer the lower. My rationale
>> >>>> being
>> >>>> > that the documentation writer needs to have more specialised skills
>> >>>> than
>> >>>> > the developer.
>> >>>> >
>> >>>> > Regards
>> >>>> >
>> >>>> > Tmi
>> >>>> >
>> >>>>
>> >>>> >
>> >>>> >     On 2022-11-24 11:09 a.m., Andreas Neumann wrote:
>> >>>> >      > Hi Vincent,
>> >>>> >      >
>> >>>> >      > Thank you for joining the discussion.
>> >>>> >      >
>> >>>> >      > We did not really discuss the hourly rates at the budget
>> >>>> meeting.
>> >>>> >     From
>> >>>> >      > 2021 to 2022 we raised the hourly dev rates from 100 to 110 -
>> >>>> and
>> >>>> >     the
>> >>>> >      > hourly documentation rates from 40 to 44. I know that both
>> >>>> rates are
>> >>>> >      > low. We can discuss raising them again.
>> >>>> >      >
>> >>>>
>> >>>> _______________________________________________
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>> >>>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> --
>> >>>
>> >>>
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>> >>>
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>> >> --
>> >>
>> >> --
>> >> Andreas Neumann
>> >> QGIS.ORG board member (treasurer)
>> >>
>> >
>> >
>>
>> --
>> Please excuse my brevity.
>>
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