[Qgis-psc] [QGIS-Developer] QGIS budget 2023 RFC

[Tim Sutton]

Hi

On Mon, Dec 5, 2022 at 3:31 PM Paolo Cavallini <cavallini at faunalia.it>
wrote:

> Sorry Tim, could you please be more explicit? Your answer is not very
> understandable to me.
>

Sorry Paolo I meant to say that on reading Andreas & Raymond's messages, it
does indeed seem to be the case that in general coders that are paid by
QGIS receive a higher compensation than documentation writers, except in
the case of the two funded positions where the reverse is true.

Regards

Tim




> Thanks.
>
> On 5 December 2022 13:37:57 WET, Tim Sutton <tim at kartoza.com> wrote:
> >Oh yes, apologies for the confusion all, I was referring only to the web
> >dev and documentation writer posts in terms of pay equity. Maybe we have
> >some work to do in other areas to make pay rates more equitable....
> >
> >Regards
> >
> >Tim
> >
> >
> >
> >On Mon, Dec 5, 2022 at 1:25 PM Andreas Neumann <andreas at qgis.org> wrote:
> >
> >> Hi all,
> >>
> >> I think there might be a "misunderstanding" of "hourly rate" (documenter
> >> vs developer) communicated vs "overall budget" (documenter vs sysadmin).
> >>
> >> The "hourly rate" for a documenter was indeed communicated to be
> >> substantially lower (44 €) than the rate of a developer (110 €) - both
> >> values for the year 2022, while Tim probably was referring to the
> overall
> >> budget of a documenter vs a sysadmin (also to be higher) for 2023, where
> >> the overall budget of the documenter is substantially higher than the
> >> budget for a sysadmin. But Tim probably wasn't comparing documentors vs.
> >> developers.
> >>
> >> Tomorrow evening at 5pm (CET) there is the next PSC meeting. We can
> invite
> >> people interested in the discussion around hiring, wages, social
> justice,
> >> etc. to the meeting, so they can raise their concerns in person and
> bring
> >> in their ideas and contributions. Of course we want this to be a
> >> transparent process. We will meet at https://meet.jit.si/QGIS-PSC
> >>
> >> Greetings,
> >> Andreas
> >>
> >>
> >> On Mon, 5 Dec 2022 at 13:39, Tim Sutton <tim at kartoza.com> wrote:
> >>
> >>> Hi
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On Mon, Dec 5, 2022 at 11:15 AM Raymond Nijssen <r.nijssen at terglobo.nl
> >
> >>> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> Are you sure, Tim? Cause that is not what Andreas wrote? Or have
> things
> >>>> suddenly been swapped this year? Just making sure.
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>> Do you mean in reference to the salaries? Can you reference what
> Andreas
> >>> wrote that is in contradiction?
> >>>
> >>> Thanks!
> >>>
> >>> Regards
> >>>
> >>> Tim
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>
> >>>> Kind regards,
> >>>> Raymond
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> On 24-11-2022 22:38, Tim Sutton wrote:
> >>>> > Hi Jeff
> >>>> >
> >>>> > I am pleased to tell you: You have it wrong. The documentation
> writer
> >>>> > will get the higher rate and the developer the lower. My rationale
> >>>> being
> >>>> > that the documentation writer needs to have more specialised skills
> >>>> than
> >>>> > the developer.
> >>>> >
> >>>> > Regards
> >>>> >
> >>>> > Tmi
> >>>> >
> >>>>
> >>>> >
> >>>> >     On 2022-11-24 11:09 a.m., Andreas Neumann wrote:
> >>>> >      > Hi Vincent,
> >>>> >      >
> >>>> >      > Thank you for joining the discussion.
> >>>> >      >
> >>>> >      > We did not really discuss the hourly rates at the budget
> >>>> meeting.
> >>>> >     From
> >>>> >      > 2021 to 2022 we raised the hourly dev rates from 100 to 110 -
> >>>> and
> >>>> >     the
> >>>> >      > hourly documentation rates from 40 to 44. I know that both
> >>>> rates are
> >>>> >      > low. We can discuss raising them again.
> >>>> >      >
> >>>>
> >>>> _______________________________________________
> >>>> Qgis-psc mailing list
> >>>> Qgis-psc at lists.osgeo.org
> >>>> https://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-psc
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> --
> >>>
> >>>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> >>>
> >>> Tim Sutton
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> >>>
> >>>
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> >>
> >>
> >> --
> >>
> >> --
> >> Andreas Neumann
> >> QGIS.ORG board member (treasurer)
> >>
> >
> >
>
> --
> Please excuse my brevity.
>


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