[Qgis-user] QGIS 3.4 macOS still doesn't install GRASS properly, ... 'sigh...'

Thu Nov 1 03:42:56 PDT 2018

...About 30 people contributed a little more than 3000 € altogether...
All of this honor
<http://context.reverso.net/traduzione/inglese-italiano/honor>!

Thank you!!!

On Wed, Oct 31, 2018 at 11:25 PM Andreas Neumann <a.neumann at carto.net>
wrote:

> Hi Stace,
>
> Sorry to hear about that. Can you remind me, when you tried to contact me?
> I couldn't find any record of it.
>
> Normally I am pretty responsive to such questions: even if we normally
> don't do earmarked donations, we always try to help you find a developer
> with the expertise to help fix issues.
>
> We also have the QGIS grants program, where contributors can propose a
> project that is funded from the general donations and sponsorships.
> Improving installer and user experience on the MacOS platform could be one
> such project.
>
> Note that GRASS and QGIS are separate projects with their own, different
> release schedules. It is normal that sometimes things break between this
> too separate projects - not on purpose, but it happens. This is nothing
> specific on the MacOS platform. It also happens on Windows and Linux.
>
> About your general complaint that we tend to neglect the MacOS platform:
> are you aware that we just recently did a fund raising initiative targeted
> specifically to fixing issues on the MacOS platform? See
> http://blog.qgis.org/2018/09/12/macosx-specific-bug-fixing-campaign/
>
> About 30 people contributed a little more than 3000 € altogether. So
> people do care about it - but to put in in perspective: one single ESRI
> license probably costs more than what this campaign raised. Nevertheless,
> it was nice to see that >30 people chipped in and it shows that the
> QGIS.ORG project also cares about it. There are some nice results from
> this initiative and we will soon blog about the results for the campaign.
>
> Greetings,
>
> Andreas
> Am 31.10.18 um 19:11 schrieb Mr. Stace D Maples:
>
> Yes, I have contacted Andreas Neumann directly with no response.
>
>
>
> In F,L&T,
>
> Stace Maples
>
> Geospatial Manager
>
> Stanford Geospatial Center
>
> @mapninja
>
> G+, Skype, Hangout: stacey.maples
>
> 214.641.0920
>
> Find GeoData: https://earthworks.stanford.edu
>
> Get GeoHelp: https://gis.stanford.edu/
>
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>
>
>
> "I have a map of the United States... actual size.
>
> It says, "Scale: 1 mile = 1 mile."
>
> I spent last summer folding it."
>
> -Steven Wright-
>
>
>
>
>
> *From: *Paolo Cavallini <cavallini at faunalia.it> <cavallini at faunalia.it>
> *Date: *Wednesday, October 31, 2018 at 11:10 AM
> *To: *"Mr. Stace D Maples" <stacemaples at stanford.edu>
> <stacemaples at stanford.edu>, Régis Haubourg <regis.haubourg at gmail.com>
> <regis.haubourg at gmail.com>
> *Cc: *QGIS list <qgis-user at lists.osgeo.org> <qgis-user at lists.osgeo.org>
> *Subject: *Re: [Qgis-user] QGIS 3.4 macOS still doesn't install GRASS
> properly, ... 'sigh...'
>
>
>
> Have you tried e.g.
> https://qgis.org/en/site/getinvolved/governance/sponsorship/sponsorship.html#qgis-sponsorship-program
> ?
> Cheers.
>
> Il 31 ottobre 2018 18:59:45 CET, "Mr. Stace D Maples"
> <stacemaples at stanford.edu> <stacemaples at stanford.edu> ha scritto:
>
> “If you have any fund or developers available, please contribute back. ”
>
>
>
> Again, we’d love to know how to do this, and who to contact directly for
> some actual results. We’ve tried. No one seems to be interested beyond
> suggesting that we contribute.
>
>
>
> In F,L&T,
>
> Stace Maples
>
> Geospatial Manager
>
> Stanford Geospatial Center
>
> @mapninja
>
> G+, Skype, Hangout: stacey.maples
>
> 214.641.0920
>
> Find GeoData: https://earthworks.stanford.edu
>
> Get GeoHelp: https://gis.stanford.edu/
>
> stanfordgis Listserv:
> https://mailman.stanford.edu/mailman/listinfo/stanfordgis
>
>
>
> "I have a map of the United States... actual size.
>
> It says, "Scale: 1 mile = 1 mile."
>
> I spent last summer folding it."
>
> -Steven Wright-
>
>
>
>
>
> *From: *Régis Haubourg <regis.haubourg at gmail.com>
> <regis.haubourg at gmail.com>
> *Date: *Wednesday, October 31, 2018 at 10:57 AM
> *To: *"Mr. Stace D Maples" <stacemaples at stanford.edu>
> <stacemaples at stanford.edu>
> *Cc: *Ian Turton <ijturton at gmail.com> <ijturton at gmail.com>, QGIS list
> <qgis-user at lists.osgeo.org> <qgis-user at lists.osgeo.org>
> *Subject: *Re: [Qgis-user] QGIS 3.4 macOS still doesn't install GRASS
> properly, ... 'sigh...'
>
>
>
> I don't think anger and rage are in any way a way to change things.
>
>
>
> Especially right after a release sprint with so much effort by so much
> people.
>
>
>
> Coming back to the real topic, MacOS really lacks funds to support
> packaging. It is way more difficult to package and solve some issues on
> MacOS. I have seen a lot of people working hard on having it running
> correctly, and it is NOT easy.
>
> If you have any fund or developpers available, please contribute back.
>
>
>
> Thanks
>
> Régis
>
>
>
> Le mer. 31 oct. 2018 à 18:46, Mr. Stace D Maples <stacemaples at stanford.edu>
> a écrit :
>
> To be fair, Esri doesn’t claim to run on a Mac.
>
>
>
> Also, we’ve reached out numerous times to QGIS.org and others trying to
> find out how to fund this, with total silence from everywhere, including
> this list. So there’s that.
>
>
>
> Is it really a put up or shut up issue when you are releasing this as a
> stable release? Really?
>
>
>
>
>
> In F,L&T,
>
> Stace Maples
>
> Geospatial Manager
>
> Stanford Geospatial Center
>
> @mapninja
>
> G+, Skype, Hangout: stacey.maples
>
> 214.641.0920
>
> Find GeoData: https://earthworks.stanford.edu
>
> Get GeoHelp: https://gis.stanford.edu/
>
> stanfordgis Listserv:
> https://mailman.stanford.edu/mailman/listinfo/stanfordgis
>
>
>
> "I have a map of the United States... actual size.
>
> It says, "Scale: 1 mile = 1 mile."
>
> I spent last summer folding it."
>
> -Steven Wright-
>
>
>
>
>
> *From: *Ian Turton <ijturton at gmail.com>
> *Date: *Wednesday, October 31, 2018 at 10:30 AM
> *To: *"Mr. Stace D Maples" <stacemaples at stanford.edu>
> *Cc: *QGIS User List <qgis-user at lists.osgeo.org>
> *Subject: *Re: [Qgis-user] QGIS 3.4 macOS still doesn't install GRASS
> properly, ... 'sigh...'
>
>
>
> To be fair you can't run ESRI on a mac either, but this is basically a put
> up or shut up issue - hire a developer to fix the mac build if you can't do
> it your self.
>
>
>
> Ian
>
>
>
> On Wed, 31 Oct 2018 at 17:27, Mr. Stace D Maples <stacemaples at stanford.edu>
> wrote:
>
> Seriously, we just can’t get a working installer for macOS? It’s just
> never gonna happen, is that it? I’d love to be able to teach QGIS alongside
> Esri, but I can tell people to use something that doesn’t work, out of the
> box. I’ve been trying for 2 days now to get back to a working copy of
> QGIS3. It’s my fault, of course. I know better than to upgrade, now.  If
> you aren’t going to test it properly, don’t release it.
>
>
>
> Here is what I get when running GRASS tools:
>
>
>
> 2018-10-31T08:54:25     INFO    GRASS GIS 7 execution console output
>
>          WARNING: Default locale settings are missing. GRASS running with
> C locale.
>
>
>
>          Starting GRASS GIS...
>
>
>
>          ERROR: Path '//' doesn't exist
>
>
>
>          Default locale not found, using UTF-8
>
>
>
>          Exiting...
>
>
>
>          WARNING: Default locale settings are missing. GRASS running with
> C locale.
>
>
>
>          Starting GRASS GIS...
>
>
>
>          ERROR: Path '//' doesn't exist
>
>
>
>          Default locale not found, using UTF-8
>
>
>
>          Exiting...
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Yes, I read the ReadMe and followed the instructions
>
> Yes, I’ve added the ENV variables
>
> Yes, I’ve scrubbed everything and done a clean install (several times)
>
> Yes, I even tried the futile installation of the GRASS “required
> frameworks” which seem to be the only solutions anyone is able to suggest
> on StackExchange.
>
> Yes I tried installing GRASS on it’s own and pointing to it from the
> processing settings, which didn’t work.
>
>
>
> Perfectly open to suggestions that DON’T involve any of the above.
>
>
>
>
>
> In F,L&T,
>
> Stace Maples
>
> Geospatial Manager
>
> Stanford Geospatial Center
>
> @mapninja
>
> G+, Skype, Hangout: stacey.maples
>
> 214.641.0920
>
> Find GeoData: https://earthworks.stanford.edu
>
> Get GeoHelp: https://gis.stanford.edu/
>
> stanfordgis Listserv:
> https://mailman.stanford.edu/mailman/listinfo/stanfordgis
>
>
>
> "I have a map of the United States... actual size.
>
> It says, "Scale: 1 mile = 1 mile."
>
> I spent last summer folding it."
>
> -Steven Wright-
>
>
>
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