[SAC] Mailing List Change Request

Mateusz Loskot mateusz at loskot.net
Fri Jan 12 02:49:26 EST 2007


Robert,

Thank you for the explanation. Certainly, it makes
sense to me very well.
Mateusz

Robert Bray wrote:
> Mateusz,
> 
> What we have found on the mapguide project is that all users are
> developers, some people like yourself write code on the project and
> others (the majority) are application developers that use our APIs.
> Often the second category posts app development questions to
> mapguide-dev when in reality they should have been posted to
> mapguide-users. I think as the FDO lists grow we'll experience the same
> problems, which is why I have backed this change. Both the PHP and MySQL
> projects use -internals to avoid that type of confusion.
> 
> The reality is I don't like it either, but I think it will be beneficial
> to the project in the long run.
> And you my friend are never interfering, just asking good questions.
> 
> Bob
> 
> Mateusz Loskot wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> Sorry for interfering, but what about:
>>
>> fdo-dev - for FDO dev team discussions
>> fdo-users - for FDO users, all who use FDO in their applications
>>
>> Mateusz
>>
>> Robert Bray wrote:
>>   
>>> Shawn,
>>>
>>> If you see this before you make the MapGuide and FDO list changes,
>>> please alter the plan as follows:
>>>
>>> Mapguide-dev => mapguide-internals
>>> Fdo-dev => fdo-internals
>>>
>>> I agree with Jason that this will hopefully prevent application
>>> developers from posting questions on the development list.
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Bob
>>>
>>> Jason Birch wrote:
>>>     
>>>> I know that this might be late, but can I suggest that we use  "mapguide-internals" rather than "mapguide-dev" ???
>>>>  
>>>> This avoids the inherent confusion that results from many of our end users being developers.
>>>>  
>>>> It appears that MySQL and PHP are both using this convention, likely for the same reason.
>>>>  
>>>> Jason
>>>>
>>>> ________________________________
>>>>
>>>> From: sac-bounces at lists.osgeo.org on behalf of shawn barnes
>>>> Sent: Thu 2007-01-11 11:29 AM
>>>> To: System Administration Committee Discussion/OSGeo
>>>> Subject: Re: [SAC] Mailing List Change Request
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Jason, Bob,
>>>>
>>>> www_admin was a list for cn mail server to send mail to.  It's now deleted
>>>>
>>>> I've also deleted the following lists:
>>>>
>>>> Webcommittee_announce
>>>> Webcommittee_commits
>>>> Webcommittee_issues
>>>> Www_news-item
>>>> Www_cvs
>>>> Mg-sandbox_commits
>>>> Mg-sandbox_issues
>>>> Fdoarcsde_commits
>>>> Fdocore_commits
>>>> Fdogdal_commits
>>>> Fdoogr_commits
>>>> Fdooracle_commits
>>>> Fdordbms_commits
>>>> Fdosdf_commits
>>>> Fdoshp_commits
>>>> Fdowfs_commits
>>>> Fdowms_commits
>>>>
>>>> lists removed with archives left intact:
>>>>
>>>> Mapguide_issues
>>>> Mapguide_psc
>>>> Fdo_issues
>>>> Fdo_psc
>>>> Mail_mse-users
>>>>
>>>> archives are accessible at lists.osgeo.org/pipermail/
>>>>
>>>> Tomorrow i will move/rename the following lists
>>>>
>>>> Webcommittee_dev  => webcom
>>>> Mapguide_announce => mapguide-announce
>>>> Mapguide_dev      => mapguide-dev
>>>> Mapguide_users    => mapguide-users
>>>> Mapguide_commits  => mapguide-commits
>>>> Fdo_announce      => fdo-announce
>>>> Fdo_commits       => fdo-commits
>>>> Fdo_dev           => fdo-dev
>>>> Fdo_users         => fdo-users
>>>>
>>>> shawn
>>>>
>>>> Jason Birch wrote:
>>>>   
>>>>       
>>>>> Shawn,
>>>>>
>>>>> If possible, could you please do the following at the same time?
>>>>>
>>>>> Delete:
>>>>>
>>>>> Webcommittee_announce@
>>>>> Webcommittee_commits@
>>>>> Webcommittee_issues@
>>>>> Www_news-item@
>>>>> Www_cvs@
>>>>>
>>>>> Rename:
>>>>>
>>>>> Webcommittee_dev@    to    webcom@
>>>>>
>>>>> and if you have time... investigate:
>>>>>
>>>>> Www_admin
>>>>>
>>>>> (I have no idea what this is)
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>> Jason
>>>>>
>>>>> ________________________________
>>>>>
>>>>> From: sac-bounces at lists.osgeo.org on behalf of shawn barnes
>>>>> Sent: Thu 2007-01-11 6:12 AM
>>>>> To: System Administration Committee Discussion/OSGeo
>>>>> Subject: Re: [SAC] Mailing List Change Request
>>>>>
>>>>> Bob,
>>>>>
>>>>> I'll can do the deleting and deactivating today and tomorrow morning
>>>>> i'll do the renaming.
>>>>>
>>>>> shawn
>>>>>
>>>>> Robert Bray wrote:
>>>>>     
>>>>>         
>>>>>> Shawn,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I would like to request some changes to the MapGuide and FDO project mailing
>>>>>> lists. Specifically I would like to rename some of mailing lists, deactivate
>>>>>> some lists, and remove some lists altogether.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> *The lists to be renamed are:*
>>>>>> Mapguide_announce => mapguide-announce
>>>>>> Mapguide_dev => mapguide-dev
>>>>>> Mapguide_users => mapguide-users
>>>>>> Mapguide_commits => mapguide-commits (should be hooked to broadcast SVN commits)
>>>>>> Fdo_announce => fdo-announce
>>>>>> Fdo_commits  => fdo-commits (should be hooked to broadcast all FDO project SVN
>>>>>> commits)
>>>>>> Fdo_dev => fdo-dev
>>>>>> Fdo_users => fdo-users
>>>>>>
>>>>>> *The lists to be deactivated (but I would like access to the archives if possible):*
>>>>>> Mapguide_issues
>>>>>> Mapguide_psc
>>>>>> Fdo_issues
>>>>>> Fdo_psc
>>>>>> Mail_mse-users
>>>>>>
>>>>>> *Lists to be deleted:*
>>>>>> Mg-sandbox_commits
>>>>>> Mg-sandbox_issues
>>>>>> Fdoarcsde_commits
>>>>>> Fdocore_commits
>>>>>> Fdogdal_commits
>>>>>> Fdoogr_commits
>>>>>> Fdooracle_commits
>>>>>> Fdordbms_commits
>>>>>> Fdosdf_commits
>>>>>> Fdoshp_commits
>>>>>> Fdowfs_commits
>>>>>> Fdowms_commits
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Please let me know if this will be possible and when the changes could be made.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>> Bob
>>>>>>           
>>
>>   
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