[SAC] Mailing List Change Request

[shawn barnes]

lists that will be renamed today:

Webcommittee_dev  => webcom
Mapguide-dev      => mapguide-internals
Mapguide_announce => mapguide-announce
Mapguide_users    => mapguide-users
Mapguide_commits  => mapguide-commits
Fdo-dev           => fdo-internals
Fdo_announce      => fdo-announce
Fdo_commits       => fdo-commits

shawn

Mateusz Loskot wrote:
> Robert,
> 
> Thank you for the explanation. Certainly, it makes
> sense to me very well.
> Mateusz
> 
> Robert Bray wrote:
>> Mateusz,
>>
>> What we have found on the mapguide project is that all users are
>> developers, some people like yourself write code on the project and
>> others (the majority) are application developers that use our APIs.
>> Often the second category posts app development questions to
>> mapguide-dev when in reality they should have been posted to
>> mapguide-users. I think as the FDO lists grow we'll experience the same
>> problems, which is why I have backed this change. Both the PHP and MySQL
>> projects use -internals to avoid that type of confusion.
>>
>> The reality is I don't like it either, but I think it will be beneficial
>> to the project in the long run.
>> And you my friend are never interfering, just asking good questions.
>>
>> Bob
>>
>> Mateusz Loskot wrote:
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> Sorry for interfering, but what about:
>>>
>>> fdo-dev - for FDO dev team discussions
>>> fdo-users - for FDO users, all who use FDO in their applications
>>>
>>> Mateusz
>>>
>>> Robert Bray wrote:
>>>   
>>>> Shawn,
>>>>
>>>> If you see this before you make the MapGuide and FDO list changes,
>>>> please alter the plan as follows:
>>>>
>>>> Mapguide-dev => mapguide-internals
>>>> Fdo-dev => fdo-internals
>>>>
>>>> I agree with Jason that this will hopefully prevent application
>>>> developers from posting questions on the development list.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks,
>>>> Bob
>>>>
>>>> Jason Birch wrote:
>>>>     
>>>>> I know that this might be late, but can I suggest that we use  "mapguide-internals" rather than "mapguide-dev" ???
>>>>>  
>>>>> This avoids the inherent confusion that results from many of our end users being developers.
>>>>>  
>>>>> It appears that MySQL and PHP are both using this convention, likely for the same reason.
>>>>>  
>>>>> Jason
>>>>>
>>>>> ________________________________
>>>>>
>>>>> From: sac-bounces at lists.osgeo.org on behalf of shawn barnes
>>>>> Sent: Thu 2007-01-11 11:29 AM
>>>>> To: System Administration Committee Discussion/OSGeo
>>>>> Subject: Re: [SAC] Mailing List Change Request
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Jason, Bob,
>>>>>
>>>>> www_admin was a list for cn mail server to send mail to.  It's now deleted
>>>>>
>>>>> I've also deleted the following lists:
>>>>>
>>>>> Webcommittee_announce
>>>>> Webcommittee_commits
>>>>> Webcommittee_issues
>>>>> Www_news-item
>>>>> Www_cvs
>>>>> Mg-sandbox_commits
>>>>> Mg-sandbox_issues
>>>>> Fdoarcsde_commits
>>>>> Fdocore_commits
>>>>> Fdogdal_commits
>>>>> Fdoogr_commits
>>>>> Fdooracle_commits
>>>>> Fdordbms_commits
>>>>> Fdosdf_commits
>>>>> Fdoshp_commits
>>>>> Fdowfs_commits
>>>>> Fdowms_commits
>>>>>
>>>>> lists removed with archives left intact:
>>>>>
>>>>> Mapguide_issues
>>>>> Mapguide_psc
>>>>> Fdo_issues
>>>>> Fdo_psc
>>>>> Mail_mse-users
>>>>>
>>>>> archives are accessible at lists.osgeo.org/pipermail/
>>>>>
>>>>> Tomorrow i will move/rename the following lists
>>>>>
>>>>> Webcommittee_dev  => webcom
>>>>> Mapguide_announce => mapguide-announce
>>>>> Mapguide_dev      => mapguide-dev
>>>>> Mapguide_users    => mapguide-users
>>>>> Mapguide_commits  => mapguide-commits
>>>>> Fdo_announce      => fdo-announce
>>>>> Fdo_commits       => fdo-commits
>>>>> Fdo_dev           => fdo-dev
>>>>> Fdo_users         => fdo-users
>>>>>
>>>>> shawn
>>>>>
>>>>> Jason Birch wrote:
>>>>>   
>>>>>       
>>>>>> Shawn,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> If possible, could you please do the following at the same time?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Delete:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Webcommittee_announce@
>>>>>> Webcommittee_commits@
>>>>>> Webcommittee_issues@
>>>>>> Www_news-item@
>>>>>> Www_cvs@
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Rename:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Webcommittee_dev@    to    webcom@
>>>>>>
>>>>>> and if you have time... investigate:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Www_admin
>>>>>>
>>>>>> (I have no idea what this is)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>> Jason
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ________________________________
>>>>>>
>>>>>> From: sac-bounces at lists.osgeo.org on behalf of shawn barnes
>>>>>> Sent: Thu 2007-01-11 6:12 AM
>>>>>> To: System Administration Committee Discussion/OSGeo
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [SAC] Mailing List Change Request
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Bob,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I'll can do the deleting and deactivating today and tomorrow morning
>>>>>> i'll do the renaming.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> shawn
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Robert Bray wrote:
>>>>>>     
>>>>>>         
>>>>>>> Shawn,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I would like to request some changes to the MapGuide and FDO project mailing
>>>>>>> lists. Specifically I would like to rename some of mailing lists, deactivate
>>>>>>> some lists, and remove some lists altogether.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> *The lists to be renamed are:*
>>>>>>> Mapguide_announce => mapguide-announce
>>>>>>> Mapguide_dev => mapguide-dev
>>>>>>> Mapguide_users => mapguide-users
>>>>>>> Mapguide_commits => mapguide-commits (should be hooked to broadcast SVN commits)
>>>>>>> Fdo_announce => fdo-announce
>>>>>>> Fdo_commits  => fdo-commits (should be hooked to broadcast all FDO project SVN
>>>>>>> commits)
>>>>>>> Fdo_dev => fdo-dev
>>>>>>> Fdo_users => fdo-users
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> *The lists to be deactivated (but I would like access to the archives if possible):*
>>>>>>> Mapguide_issues
>>>>>>> Mapguide_psc
>>>>>>> Fdo_issues
>>>>>>> Fdo_psc
>>>>>>> Mail_mse-users
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> *Lists to be deleted:*
>>>>>>> Mg-sandbox_commits
>>>>>>> Mg-sandbox_issues
>>>>>>> Fdoarcsde_commits
>>>>>>> Fdocore_commits
>>>>>>> Fdogdal_commits
>>>>>>> Fdoogr_commits
>>>>>>> Fdooracle_commits
>>>>>>> Fdordbms_commits
>>>>>>> Fdosdf_commits
>>>>>>> Fdoshp_commits
>>>>>>> Fdowfs_commits
>>>>>>> Fdowms_commits
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Please let me know if this will be possible and when the changes could be made.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>> Bob
>>>>>>>           
>>>   
>>
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