[SAC] Bounce action notification

[Matt Wilkie]

Well that confirms why the mail is stopped, but doesn't give much
indication of what to do about it. The Outlook "Services for Senders and
ISPs" page, http://mail.live.com/mail/services.aspx#Section1, has
possibilities. I've no idea which is the most appropriate route for us. Has
anyone already started sussing them out already?

-matt


On Tue, Sep 17, 2013 at 2:09 PM, Alex Mandel <tech_dev at wildintellect.com>wrote:

> Alan has helped confirm the blacklist:
> <aboudreault> Sep  8 06:34:11 mail postfix/smtp[16407]: 8FE548375:
> to=<simbaha2.runezone at outlook.com>,
> relay=mx3.hotmail.com[65.54.188.94]:25, delay=0.7,
> delays=0.07/0.01/0.58/0.03, dsn=5.0.0, status=bounced (host mx3
> <aboudreault> .hotmail.com[65.54.188.94] said: 550 SC-004 (BAY0-MC2-F18)
> Unfortunately, messages from 140.211.15.134 weren't sent. We recommend
> that you contact your Internet service provider. The problem is that too
> <aboudreault> many unwanted messages have been sent from the following
> IP address above. You can also refer your provider to
> http://mail.live.com/mail/troubleshooting.aspx#errors. (in reply to MAIL
> FROM command))
> <aboudreault> Code 550 SC-004: Emails rejected by Outlook for policy
> reasons. A block has been placed against your IP address because we have
> received complaints concerning emails coming from that IP address. We
> recommend enrolling in our Junk Email Reporting Programme (JMRP), a free
> programme intended to help senders remove unwanted recipients from their
> email list. If you are not an email/network admin please contact your
> Email/Internet Service
>
> from  /var/log/mail.log.1
>
> Thanks,
> Alex
>
> On 09/17/2013 12:05 PM, Alex Mandel wrote:
> > On 09/13/2013 02:31 AM, Hamish wrote:
> >> Arnulf wrote:
> >>> There is a sort of recommendation forming to not use hotmail accounts
> >>
> >>> with OSGeo lists. If you think we should publish this somewhere please
> >>> go ahead. It even might sense to add a link on the mailing list
> >>> registration template to our Wiki with current information of this
> >>> type. Then people can read it even before subscribing.
> >>
> >> it may be the case that hotmail disproportionately concentrates some
> >> users who would be more likely to click on a "this is spam" button
> >> to get rid of an email vs. finding the "click here to unsubscribe"
> >> link at the bottom of the email. By diluting those users out to
> >> other email systems, the other email systems may in turn be more
> >> likely to ban our domain. i.e. the problem is perhaps not hotmail
> >> and their technical policies.
> >>
> >> what we don't know is how close we've come to being flagged by the
> >> other gmail/yahoo/gmx/.. major providers due to user supplied false
> >> positives, and so what their respective capacities to absorb more are.
> >>
> >> no easy answers and not making blanket statements about everyone who
> >> ever used a hotmail account, just something to think about.
> >>
> >>
> >> regards,
> >> Hamish
> >>
> >
> > So yes cumulative reputation on hotmail matters significantly.
> > http://www.rackaid.com/resources/hotmail-blacklist-removal/
> >
> > I also found where to submit to have MSN review and un-blacklist us.
> >
> https://support.msn.com/eform.aspx?productKey=edfsmsbl&ct=eformts&st=1&wfxredirect=1
> >
> > I don't know all the answers they want. If people could help me come up
> > with all the answers I'm happy to file the issue.
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Alex
> >
> >
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