[SAC] Bounce action notification

[Alex Mandel]

Alan has helped confirm the blacklist:
<aboudreault> Sep  8 06:34:11 mail postfix/smtp[16407]: 8FE548375:
to=<simbaha2.runezone at outlook.com>,
relay=mx3.hotmail.com[65.54.188.94]:25, delay=0.7,
delays=0.07/0.01/0.58/0.03, dsn=5.0.0, status=bounced (host mx3
<aboudreault> .hotmail.com[65.54.188.94] said: 550 SC-004 (BAY0-MC2-F18)
Unfortunately, messages from 140.211.15.134 weren't sent. We recommend
that you contact your Internet service provider. The problem is that too
<aboudreault> many unwanted messages have been sent from the following
IP address above. You can also refer your provider to
http://mail.live.com/mail/troubleshooting.aspx#errors. (in reply to MAIL
FROM command))
<aboudreault> Code 550 SC-004: Emails rejected by Outlook for policy
reasons. A block has been placed against your IP address because we have
received complaints concerning emails coming from that IP address. We
recommend enrolling in our Junk Email Reporting Programme (JMRP), a free
programme intended to help senders remove unwanted recipients from their
email list. If you are not an email/network admin please contact your
Email/Internet Service

from  /var/log/mail.log.1

Thanks,
Alex

On 09/17/2013 12:05 PM, Alex Mandel wrote:
> On 09/13/2013 02:31 AM, Hamish wrote:
>> Arnulf wrote:
>>> There is a sort of recommendation forming to not use hotmail accounts
>>
>>> with OSGeo lists. If you think we should publish this somewhere please
>>> go ahead. It even might sense to add a link on the mailing list
>>> registration template to our Wiki with current information of this
>>> type. Then people can read it even before subscribing.
>>
>> it may be the case that hotmail disproportionately concentrates some
>> users who would be more likely to click on a "this is spam" button
>> to get rid of an email vs. finding the "click here to unsubscribe"
>> link at the bottom of the email. By diluting those users out to
>> other email systems, the other email systems may in turn be more
>> likely to ban our domain. i.e. the problem is perhaps not hotmail
>> and their technical policies.
>>
>> what we don't know is how close we've come to being flagged by the
>> other gmail/yahoo/gmx/.. major providers due to user supplied false
>> positives, and so what their respective capacities to absorb more are.
>>
>> no easy answers and not making blanket statements about everyone who
>> ever used a hotmail account, just something to think about.
>>
>>
>> regards,
>> Hamish
>>
> 
> So yes cumulative reputation on hotmail matters significantly.
> http://www.rackaid.com/resources/hotmail-blacklist-removal/
> 
> I also found where to submit to have MSN review and un-blacklist us.
> https://support.msn.com/eform.aspx?productKey=edfsmsbl&ct=eformts&st=1&wfxredirect=1
> 
> I don't know all the answers they want. If people could help me come up
> with all the answers I'm happy to file the issue.
> 
> Thanks,
> Alex
> 
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