[SAC] Fwd: Request to transfer domain deegree.org to OSGeo

Jeff McKenna jmckenna at gatewaygeomatics.com
Mon Oct 19 06:12:49 PDT 2015


Hi SAC, I didn't see a response from anyone on this request.  Can we 
begin a transfer of the deegree.org domain to OSGeo?

-jeff



On 2015-10-14 10:42 AM, Jeff McKenna wrote:
> SAC, could you help Jens to transfer the deegree.org domain to OSGeo?
> (deegree is an OSGeo project so this request makes sense)
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> -jeff
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> Subject: [Board] Request to transfer domain deegree.org to OSGeo
> Date: Wed, 14 Oct 2015 12:50:46 +0200
> From: Jens Fitzke <fitzke at lat-lon.de>
> To: board at lists.osgeo.org
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> Dear Board members,
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> In the mail cited below I described a problem we just had with
> deegree.org. In
> the meantime it was possible, with the help of a professional lawyer, to
> reject the prosecution. We removed everything from deegree.org which might
> lead to the misinterpretation that commercial services are advertised
> there,
> and we added an imprint, the latter as an interim solution to support the
> rejection of the complaint.
>
> As a long-term solution, as already pointed out below, I propose to
> transfer
> the deegree.org domain to OSGeo. By that it would also from a legal
> point of
> view be clear that it is a community domain, not a company domain. If that
> transfer is possible, also the imprint could either be removed or
> adjusted to
> the new situation.
>
> Such a procedure could also be a solution for other OSGeo project who might
> otherwise run into the same kind of trouble.
>
> The question to you is, if such a transfer is possible, and what has to be
> done to achieve it. Your feedback, please.
>
> Kind regards,
>
> Jens
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> - -------- Weitergeleitete Nachricht --------
> Betreff: Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] OSGeo is becoming irrelevant. Here's why.
> Let's
> fix it.
> Datum: Mon, 28 Sep 2015 09:57:18 +0200
> Von: Jens Fitzke <fitzke at lat-lon.de>
> Kopie (CC): discuss at lists.osgeo.org
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> Am 26.09.2015 um 17:20 schrieb Darrell Fuhriman:
>> This is a perfect example.
>>
>> All of those are great and wonderful things! The community does great and
>> wonderful things. That’ s not my point.
>>
>> My point is, those activities would happen even if the OSGeo Foundation
>> disappeared. I’m not questioning whether we have a large and vibrant
>> community, we do. And we still would.
>>
>> My local chapter existed before it was an OSGeo chapter, and we would
>> keep
>> on having meetings and doing fun and exciting things even without the
>> OSGeo Foundation.
>
> Same is true for the German chapter. But nevertheless there is need for
> something more umbrella-like.
>
>> Put another way: The OSGeo Foundation needs the Open Source Geospatial
>> community, but does the Open Source Geospatial community need the OSGeo
>> Foundation? I don’t see that it does.
>
> Here's a case why the Open Source Geospatial community need the OSGeo
> Foundation: Our company is currently being legally prosecuted as the
> owner of
> the deegree.org domain. The claim is that on www.deegree.org there is a
> commercial offering, but at the same time the web site lacks an imprint
> (which
> is legally enforced in Germany for all commercial offerings). Besides the
> question if some links to companies who provide "professional support" are
> already a commercial offering, the main point here is, that lat/lon is made
> responsible for something (providing the server) the company is only
> doing to
> support the community. But the prosecutor is saying that lat/lon is
> accountable here as per the whois entry.
>
> We are currently evaluating reactions, together with a lawyer who is
> experienced in legal aspects of Open Source. But as a more long-term
> solution
> I'd say OSGeo should be the legal owner of deegree.org. From my naive legal
> understanding this would help a lot to get things straight and more
> transparent to the outside world.
>
> This case might be a bit special, but it is a real one - and it might have
> some larger impact as I am seeing other projects which have a similiar
> setting
> and thus might run into the same kind of trouble. Depending on the legal
> situation in the various countries, of course.
>
> My 2 cents,
>
> Jens


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