[SAC] Fwd: Request to transfer domain deegree.org to OSGeo

[Alex Mandel]

Yes, we can help with this. Please file a ticket. I suspect it will be
easier to coordinate with someone also in the EU on the transfer timing.

Anyone recall if the transfer is initiated on the current service or
pairnic 1st?

I suspect at minimum we need to know what IP to point the url to, Jens
should also join the SAC list (which is a general requirement for people
running servers we point to).

Thanks,
Alex

On 10/19/2015 06:12 AM, Jeff McKenna wrote:
> Hi SAC, I didn't see a response from anyone on this request.  Can we
> begin a transfer of the deegree.org domain to OSGeo?
> 
> -jeff
> 
> 
> 
> On 2015-10-14 10:42 AM, Jeff McKenna wrote:
>> SAC, could you help Jens to transfer the deegree.org domain to OSGeo?
>> (deegree is an OSGeo project so this request makes sense)
>>
>> -jeff
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> -------- Forwarded Message --------
>> Subject: [Board] Request to transfer domain deegree.org to OSGeo
>> Date: Wed, 14 Oct 2015 12:50:46 +0200
>> From: Jens Fitzke <fitzke at lat-lon.de>
>> To: board at lists.osgeo.org
>>
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>> Dear Board members,
>>
>> In the mail cited below I described a problem we just had with
>> deegree.org. In
>> the meantime it was possible, with the help of a professional lawyer, to
>> reject the prosecution. We removed everything from deegree.org which
>> might
>> lead to the misinterpretation that commercial services are advertised
>> there,
>> and we added an imprint, the latter as an interim solution to support the
>> rejection of the complaint.
>>
>> As a long-term solution, as already pointed out below, I propose to
>> transfer
>> the deegree.org domain to OSGeo. By that it would also from a legal
>> point of
>> view be clear that it is a community domain, not a company domain. If
>> that
>> transfer is possible, also the imprint could either be removed or
>> adjusted to
>> the new situation.
>>
>> Such a procedure could also be a solution for other OSGeo project who
>> might
>> otherwise run into the same kind of trouble.
>>
>> The question to you is, if such a transfer is possible, and what has
>> to be
>> done to achieve it. Your feedback, please.
>>
>> Kind regards,
>>
>> Jens
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> - -------- Weitergeleitete Nachricht --------
>> Betreff: Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] OSGeo is becoming irrelevant. Here's why.
>> Let's
>> fix it.
>> Datum: Mon, 28 Sep 2015 09:57:18 +0200
>> Von: Jens Fitzke <fitzke at lat-lon.de>
>> Kopie (CC): discuss at lists.osgeo.org
>>
>> Am 26.09.2015 um 17:20 schrieb Darrell Fuhriman:
>>> This is a perfect example.
>>>
>>> All of those are great and wonderful things! The community does great
>>> and
>>> wonderful things. That’ s not my point.
>>>
>>> My point is, those activities would happen even if the OSGeo Foundation
>>> disappeared. I’m not questioning whether we have a large and vibrant
>>> community, we do. And we still would.
>>>
>>> My local chapter existed before it was an OSGeo chapter, and we would
>>> keep
>>> on having meetings and doing fun and exciting things even without the
>>> OSGeo Foundation.
>>
>> Same is true for the German chapter. But nevertheless there is need for
>> something more umbrella-like.
>>
>>> Put another way: The OSGeo Foundation needs the Open Source Geospatial
>>> community, but does the Open Source Geospatial community need the OSGeo
>>> Foundation? I don’t see that it does.
>>
>> Here's a case why the Open Source Geospatial community need the OSGeo
>> Foundation: Our company is currently being legally prosecuted as the
>> owner of
>> the deegree.org domain. The claim is that on www.deegree.org there is a
>> commercial offering, but at the same time the web site lacks an imprint
>> (which
>> is legally enforced in Germany for all commercial offerings). Besides the
>> question if some links to companies who provide "professional support"
>> are
>> already a commercial offering, the main point here is, that lat/lon is
>> made
>> responsible for something (providing the server) the company is only
>> doing to
>> support the community. But the prosecutor is saying that lat/lon is
>> accountable here as per the whois entry.
>>
>> We are currently evaluating reactions, together with a lawyer who is
>> experienced in legal aspects of Open Source. But as a more long-term
>> solution
>> I'd say OSGeo should be the legal owner of deegree.org. From my naive
>> legal
>> understanding this would help a lot to get things straight and more
>> transparent to the outside world.
>>
>> This case might be a bit special, but it is a real one - and it might
>> have
>> some larger impact as I am seeing other projects which have a similiar
>> setting
>> and thus might run into the same kind of trouble. Depending on the legal
>> situation in the various countries, of course.
>>
>> My 2 cents,
>>
>> Jens
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