[OSGeo-Standards] [vote] Creation of the OSGeo Standards Committee

Tom Kralidis tomkralidis at gmail.com
Wed Feb 8 04:57:09 PST 2023


Hi all: given the discussion below, it makes sense for the Standards
Committee to further discuss voting processes before moving forward.  As a
result, the motion is withdrawn and will be submitted for Committee vote
once we have the appropriate clarifications.

Thanks

..Tom


On Fri, Feb 3, 2023 at 12:19 PM Angelos Tzotsos <gcpp.kalxas at gmail.com>
wrote:

> ok, I think we need to reach to some agreement on this before passing
> the motion.
>
> How about we require at least 30% of the votes (4 currently) and no veto?
>
> Angelos
>
> On 2/3/23 18:28, Howard Butler wrote:
> > I am also -0. Anything controversial is going to attract attention and
> discussion, and anything that is inert or procedural ends up requiring
> chasing people to meet quorum requirements (I think I have resigned from
> the Incubation committee three different times as a result of people
> chasing votes).
> >
> > Howard
> >
> >> On Feb 3, 2023, at 10:21 AM, Even Rouault <even.rouault at spatialys.com>
> wrote:
> >>
> >> I'm -0 on the change for a 50% quorum. Other OSGeo committees have such
> a quorum rule and struggle with reaching it because some members over time
> start become inactive and don't bother formally resigning, and people have
> to spend energy chasing for votes. The 2 +1 no -1 is very effective to
> avoid inactive members to become a burden for the rest of the group.
> >>
> >> Le 03/02/2023 à 12:25, Tom Kralidis a écrit :
> >>> Hi Bruce: thanks for the feedback.  The voting period has been
> extended to one week, with a required 50% quorum.
> >>>
> >>> Given the change to the ToR, we will need to re-vote.
> >>>
> >>> I will start with my +1 given the updated ToR.
> >>>
> >>> Thanks
> >>>
> >>> ..Tom
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On Wed, Feb 1, 2023 at 8:15 PM Bruce Bannerman <
> bruce.bannerman.osgeo at gmail.com <mailto:bruce.bannerman.osgeo at gmail.com>>
> wrote:
> >>>> Hi Tom,
> >>>>
> >>>> It is good to see this development!
> >>>>
> >>>> I’m in broad support of the TOR as at [1] below.
> >>>>
> >>>> Two suggestions:
> >>>>
> >>>> Voting:
> >>>> I think that the two day limit on voting is too short, based on my
> experiences with the Incubation Committee.
> >>>> Time needs to be allowed for members to find the proposal, review a
> proposal, think about it and then vote.
> >>>> When committee members are busy, travelling, on holidays etc, 2 days
> is too short.
> >>>> I suggest a one week limit to each vote.
> >>>>
> >>>> Quorum [2]
> >>>> I think that a Quorum of two is too small.
> >>>> Is the committee expecting minimal input from members? If so then I’d
> question the raison d'etre of the committee.
> >>>> Perhaps set the Quorum at 51% of votes or something similar?
> >>>>
> >>>> Kind regards,
> >>>>
> >>>> Bruce
> >>>>
> >>>> [2] https://dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/english/quorum
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>> On 2 Feb 2023, at 01:44, Tom Kralidis <tomkralidis at gmail.com
> <mailto:tomkralidis at gmail.com>> wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Hi all: triggered by our recently updated MOU with OGC, and as
> discussed/presented at FOSS4G Florence, various members of the OSGeo
> standards community have been working together to establish a dedicated
> OSGeo Standards Committee.  The first order of business is to put forth a
> Terms of Reference as part of bootstrapping.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> The Terms of Reference can be found in [1].
> >>>>>
> >>>>> As part of bootstrapping, the ToR needs to be agreed upon by the
> initial Committee membership.  Once consensus is reached, then the
> Committee creation can be discussed at the next OSGeo Board meeting (end
> February) for Board approval.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> I will start with my +1.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Thanks
> >>>>>
> >>>>> ..Tom
> >>>>>
> >>>>> [1]
> https://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Standards_Committee#Terms_of_Reference
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