[Ubuntu] Plan for QGIS and GRASS versions, etc...

[Sebastiaan Couwenberg]

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Hi jef,

On 07-08-15 09:38, Jürgen E. Fischer wrote:
> On Thu, 06. Aug 2015 at 11:56:23 +0200, Sebastiaan Couwenberg
> wrote:
>> On 06-08-15 09:40, Jürgen E. Fischer wrote:
>>> In debian there currently is no GRASS 7 and hence the packaging
>>> was not updated.  It will once something breaks...
> 
>> Is that an invitation to move GRASS 7 from Debian experimental
>> to unstable so that it breaks the QGIS builds?
> 
> Well, I'm not going to build GRASS 7 myself.  So unless it gets in
> my way, I'll try to ignore that it's exist.  Ok, too late for that
> - but I like the idea ;)
> 
> And the unstable build is currently broken anyway, because of the
> gcc-5 transition.
> 
>> That would make the GRASS community happy, they have been
>> complaining that the lack of support for GRASS 7 in QGIS (2.8 LTR
>> specifically) is holding back their software.
> 
>> I would like to get rid of GRASS 6 in Debian and switch to GRASS
>> 7, but haven't done that yet because qgis-plugin-grass users
>> complained that the lack of GRASS support in QGIS was
>> unacceptable.
> 
> I'd say move ahead.  Even it if breaks qgis-plugin-grass.  IMHO
> that's why it's called unstable: be prepared to loose something for
> a while here and there for the benefit of having the latest stuff
> working for most of the time.

Good, I'll move GRASS 7 from experimental to unstable after the GCC 5
transitions have moved along and its possible to build these packages
in unstable again.

I'll send a PR for QGIS packaging changes to not build the plugin on
Debian unstable if you don't beat me to it.

>> Now that GRASS 7 support in QGIS >= 2.10 is available, I think
>> we should make the switch in Debian and suggest users of the qgis
>> plugin to use the upstream QGIS packages for its GRASS 7
>> support.
> 
> Does it now?

While the plugin doesn't work yet, there at least is the first part of
the GRASS 7 support in QGIS 2.10.

> I thought that was going to appear in 2.12.  My understanding was,
> that the GRASS plugin does not yet support GRASS7 - currently only
> the GRASS7 provider (and in turn QGIS browser support) works and
> processing supports GRASS7 (although until very recently - and
> oddly widely unnoticed - it apparently didn't even call it [1]).

I guess having GRASS 7 in the various distributions might have caught
that sooner.

> So unless that actually changed, I'd be disabling qgis-plugin-grass
> on distributions where GRASS6 disappears and stick with it
> otherwise.

Yes, that's my plan for the qgis package in Debian too. That was my
plan initially too, but then qgis users complained about the lack of
the plugin, and the rest is history.

Kind Regards,

Bas

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