[Ubuntu] Stable update

[Alex Mandel]

Worth,

10.04 is past end of life from Ubuntu (2015) those people need to
upgrade if they want any updates from us or Ubuntu.

12.04 only has 1 year left (2017), so it's unlikely to get anything
except bugfix releases if possible (not always possible).

Yes, this thread is about clarifying the policies.

Thanks,
Alex

On 04/26/2016 07:50 AM, Worth Lutz wrote:
> I've got customers with servers running Ubuntu 10.04 and 12.04.
> 
> Older LTS versions of Ubuntu need access to the updates to GIS packages.
> As fixes and improvements get added, how will this be reflected in
> UbuntuGIS?
> 
> I do not understand the process of how the Ubuntu packages get updated.
> In the past I've used UbuntuGis-unstable to get updated versions of
> MapServer which have fixes I needed to run on production servers.
> 
> I think a defined policy of what is included in Stable, Unstable and
> Testing/Experimental is important.
> 
> Thanks to all who are working to keep UbuntuGis up to date!
> 
> *Worth Lutz*
> 
> 
> On 4/25/2016 9:15 PM, Alex Mandel wrote:
>> On 04/25/2016 01:59 PM, Angelos Tzotsos wrote:
>>> On 04/25/2016 11:45 PM, Johan Van de Wauw wrote:
>>>> On Mon, Apr 25, 2016 at 10:04 PM, Alex M <tech_dev at wildintellect.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>> Historically we haven't done a great job of keeping stable very
>>>>> relevant, but people running servers in production really ought to be
>>>>> using it and not unstable. Maybe a clearer policy on when things
>>>>> should
>>>>> move to stable needs to be made (it is ok for some packages to be the
>>>>> same version as unstable).
>>>> With quite DebianGIS quite up-to-date, Ubuntu already has rather
>>>> recent versions of most packages. I think stable becomes perhaps even
>>>> less relevant. For non-LTS releases I think we should not use it
>>>> (well, never say never). For LTS releases, I think the policy of
>>>> copying whatever gets on OSGeo live after the release is quite a good
>>>> policy. It gets a lot of testing.
>>>>
>>>> Kind Regards,
>>>> Johan
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>>> +1 to rename testing to experimental. Actually I have started building
>>> everything based on gdal 2.0 there already.
>>> Also, +1 for a policy to copy everything from OSGeoLive after release.
>>>
>>> Best,
>>> Angelos
>>>
>> Only latest Ubuntu has recent versions of most packages.
>> 12.04 and 14.04 actually have fairly old packages at this point but are
>> still in wide use and will be for another 1,3 years respectively.
>>
>> UbuntuGIS stable is moot for Xenial but very important to Trusty. If
>> someone needs to stick to QGIS 2.8 and GDAL 1.11.x stable is where they
>> should be able to get that. In 6 months to a year stable will actually
>> become important for Xenial too since QGIS 2.14 will be the LTS and
>> should move to stable, with 2.16 and the upcoming 3.x series going to
>> unstable...
>>
>> +1 to copying packages from osgeo-live, however we shouldn't let that
>> timetable keep us from updating unstable whenever new releases come out.
>>
>> As I've said before in the past, if we can create simpler instructions
>> for all the easyish packages, there are more volunteers who would gladly
>> help keep packages flowing. I suppose we should make a list of who
>> generally upkeeps which packages.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Alex
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