[Ubuntu] Stable update

[Worth Lutz]

Thanks, 
My error on our versions. It's 12 & 14. I typed without thinking. 

I understand dependencies sometimes keep updates from getting to older systems. I was hoping to jump to 16.04 but will have to wait on php-mapscript. 

Thanks for your work in making these packages available. 

Worth 

> On Apr 26, 2016, at 11:05 AM, Alex Mandel <tech_dev at wildintellect.com> wrote:
> 
> Worth,
> 
> 10.04 is past end of life from Ubuntu (2015) those people need to
> upgrade if they want any updates from us or Ubuntu.
> 
> 12.04 only has 1 year left (2017), so it's unlikely to get anything
> except bugfix releases if possible (not always possible).
> 
> Yes, this thread is about clarifying the policies.
> 
> Thanks,
> Alex
> 
>> On 04/26/2016 07:50 AM, Worth Lutz wrote:
>> I've got customers with servers running Ubuntu 10.04 and 12.04.
>> 
>> Older LTS versions of Ubuntu need access to the updates to GIS packages.
>> As fixes and improvements get added, how will this be reflected in
>> UbuntuGIS?
>> 
>> I do not understand the process of how the Ubuntu packages get updated.
>> In the past I've used UbuntuGis-unstable to get updated versions of
>> MapServer which have fixes I needed to run on production servers.
>> 
>> I think a defined policy of what is included in Stable, Unstable and
>> Testing/Experimental is important.
>> 
>> Thanks to all who are working to keep UbuntuGis up to date!
>> 
>> *Worth Lutz*
>> 
>> 
>>> On 4/25/2016 9:15 PM, Alex Mandel wrote:
>>>> On 04/25/2016 01:59 PM, Angelos Tzotsos wrote:
>>>>> On 04/25/2016 11:45 PM, Johan Van de Wauw wrote:
>>>>> On Mon, Apr 25, 2016 at 10:04 PM, Alex M <tech_dev at wildintellect.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> Historically we haven't done a great job of keeping stable very
>>>>>> relevant, but people running servers in production really ought to be
>>>>>> using it and not unstable. Maybe a clearer policy on when things
>>>>>> should
>>>>>> move to stable needs to be made (it is ok for some packages to be the
>>>>>> same version as unstable).
>>>>> With quite DebianGIS quite up-to-date, Ubuntu already has rather
>>>>> recent versions of most packages. I think stable becomes perhaps even
>>>>> less relevant. For non-LTS releases I think we should not use it
>>>>> (well, never say never). For LTS releases, I think the policy of
>>>>> copying whatever gets on OSGeo live after the release is quite a good
>>>>> policy. It gets a lot of testing.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Kind Regards,
>>>>> Johan
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>>>> +1 to rename testing to experimental. Actually I have started building
>>>> everything based on gdal 2.0 there already.
>>>> Also, +1 for a policy to copy everything from OSGeoLive after release.
>>>> 
>>>> Best,
>>>> Angelos
>>> Only latest Ubuntu has recent versions of most packages.
>>> 12.04 and 14.04 actually have fairly old packages at this point but are
>>> still in wide use and will be for another 1,3 years respectively.
>>> 
>>> UbuntuGIS stable is moot for Xenial but very important to Trusty. If
>>> someone needs to stick to QGIS 2.8 and GDAL 1.11.x stable is where they
>>> should be able to get that. In 6 months to a year stable will actually
>>> become important for Xenial too since QGIS 2.14 will be the LTS and
>>> should move to stable, with 2.16 and the upcoming 3.x series going to
>>> unstable...
>>> 
>>> +1 to copying packages from osgeo-live, however we shouldn't let that
>>> timetable keep us from updating unstable whenever new releases come out.
>>> 
>>> As I've said before in the past, if we can create simpler instructions
>>> for all the easyish packages, there are more volunteers who would gladly
>>> help keep packages flowing. I suppose we should make a list of who
>>> generally upkeeps which packages.
>>> 
>>> Thanks,
>>> Alex
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>> 
>> 
>> 
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