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Jason Fournier jfournier at dmsolutions.ca
Fri Nov 19 12:46:51 EST 2010

Hi Cameron,

Your approach makes sense ... I'll temper it with the amount of time I can devote to helping out.  Frank's list would appear to be as good a place to start as any (unless there's already a maintained list - bugs aside?).

Best regards

On 2010-11-13, at 2:44 PM, Cameron Shorter wrote:

> Jason,
> Great to see you step forward to help with the website. It is very needed, and lots of people have talked about improving it, but very little has happened for quite a while.
> Before starting work, I suggest collate ideas from people, then organise a work plan for things that need to be done, and publish that workplan somewhere for others to comment on, and be inspired to contribute to help you.
> This is what I wrote on this topic to Tyler a few weeks back:
> On October 25, 2010 03:14:22 pm Cameron Shorter wrote:
>> >     Tyler,
>> >  What I've found in Open Source projects is that you get maximum
>> >  engagement from the community when you have very a clear outline about
>> >  what you plan to do, and a schedule for achieving it. Then you
>> >  systematically knock off your deliverables as per the schedule.
>> >  >  You should also are clear about what you would like help with, but at the
>> >  moment nothing is going to be done because there are no volunteers. Ideally,
>> >  these extra bits of work are in small chunks. Something that someone can
>> >  easily be volunteer for, and knock over a few nights a week over the
>> >  next couple of months.
>> >  >  At the moment, the website is seen as a huge task, and no one is
>> >  prepared to get involved because:
>> >  1. They don't feel confident that what they suggest will be acceptable
>> >  to the community.
>> >  2. They don't feel they have enough time to take the project through to
>> >  completion.
>> >  3. There would be a concern that any effort contributed will be wasted
>> >  because there is a good chance the website will never go live with their
>> >  contributions anyway.
>> >  >  Breaking the development of the website into lots of small milestones,
>> >  with small work packages along the way that people can volunteer for
>> >  will be very valuable.
>> >  
> On 13/11/2010 4:14 AM, Jason Fournier wrote:
>> On 2010-11-12, at 11:58 AM, Tyler Mitchell (OSGeo) wrote:
>>> It is indeed the "fun" part :)  (as opposed to raw content building).  I can
>>> create accounts for anyone interested in watching the beta design and
>>> migration stuff occurring.  We've now got an XHTML-ified and Drupal structured
>>> theme that essentially looks like:
>>> Front page: http://svn.osgeo.org/osgeo/marketing/website/design/draft2a.jpg
>>> Main pages: http://svn.osgeo.org/osgeo/marketing/website/design/subpage1.jpg
>>> (minus the right sidebar)
>>> Fortunately there is no plan to trash the content and rebuild from scratch!
>>> We went through an exercise of mapping old content into a new structure, in
>>> case you're interested.  Green text on right means it matches existing/old
>>> content, but black text shows where new content will need to be created.
>>> http://svn.osgeo.org/osgeo/marketing/website/sitemap/sitemap.svg
>>> (Mindmap ver: http://svn.osgeo.org/osgeo/marketing/website/sitemap/sitemap.mm
>>> in case you want to explore/edit)
>>> Tyler
>> Looks like you have things well under way!  I'll take a look at some of the other items on Frank's list.
>> Best regards
>> Jason
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