[ZOO-Discuss] ZOO Debian Package

Tue Sep 21 13:26:54 PDT 2010

Hi,

thanks for all the suggestions.   Yesterday I've worked at a simple
version of the package that will carry zoo_loader.cgi in the cgi-bin
dir and main.cfg in the examples directory, plus all the standard
debian files.   The good thing is that the packaging build process
seems to work quite well, and that's good for porting it to different
architectures.

For the name of the package, from the discussion it seems that we have
to chose from two options:

zoowps-x.x.x  - this is the case if zoo will always talk 'wps'

zookernel-x.x.x  - if 'wps' is just one of the 'languages' zoo will
talk with clients in future (as I understood from Venka's message),
and the 'kernel' is to be considered the engine where to attach
services communicating with 'languages' other than wps (are there
other ones around yet?).

Regarding the future addons, debian/ubunt provides the
"packagename-extras" naming scheme option that fits well with our case
for extra backends.

I don't want to be too pedant on this, since it is only a name, but
choosing a good package name will save time later on.

Alessandro

2010/9/21 Venkatesh Raghavan <raghavan at media.osaka-cu.ac.jp>:
> Someday ZOO could hopefully be more than WPS
> only.
>
> My suggestion would be to name the package as
> zoo-kernel with subsequent release zoo-services
> and zoo-api.
>
> Since multi-language support is one of the
> main features of the ZOO-Kernel, the present release
> (ZOO-Kernel-1.0.1) could C/C++, Fortran and Python
> support. Future stable release (ZOO-Kernel-1.2.X) could
> include support for javascript and other newly
> supported languages.
>
> ZOO-Services and ZOO-API could be released as independent
> packages.
>
> Also a possibility of releasing ZOO-Bundle (which includes
> ZOO-Kernel, ZOO-Services and ZOO-API) in the future.
>
> Best
>
> Venka
>
> On 2010/09/20 22:15, Gérald Fenoy wrote:
>> Hi Daniel, yes you're right, maybe better to keep WPS in the package
>> name.
>>
>> I agree also that the zoo-service and zoo-api can be installed as
>> independent packages. But if we use it this way, then how can we
>> provide the ZOO Kernel ? I mean that the compilation process of the
>> ZOO Kernel imply that each requested Languages support have to be
>> compiled at the same time. Or do we need to plan to provide multiple
>> "zoo-wps" packages for each support ? I mean something like :
>> zoo-wps-std for ZOO Kernel with C/C++, Fortran and Python support,
>> then zoo-wps-javascript for another one including the later and with
>> the javascript addition and so on ?
>>
>> I don't know how to do this in an efficient way.
>>
>> Let me know what you think, Regards,
>>
>> Le 20 sept. 2010 à 14:39, Daniel Kastl a écrit :
>>
>>> Hi Gerald,
>>>
>>> Is ZOO-Project going to be more than WPS? Alessandro's proposal
>>> idea to call it "zoo-wps" isn't bad IMO. Another idea would be - in
>>> case ZOO Services and API could be installed extra - to split them
>>> in packages like "zoo-kernel", "zoo-services", "zoo-api" with being
>>> "zoo-kernel" required for others.
>>>
>>> Well, shouldn't become to complicated on the other hand.
>>>
>>> Daniel
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> 2010/9/20 Gérald Fenoy<gerald.fenoy at geolabs.fr> Hi Alessandro, nice
>>> to hear  from you.
>>>
>>> I think it can be better to use ZOO-Project, if this is acceptable
>>> in Debian packaging name. If not then maybe you can use
>>> zoo-project.
>>>
>>> We will create a branch and tag officially in some days, we need to
>>> finalize the Perl support integration first. It was currently
>>> tested by David Saggiorato on his own (some part was already
>>> integrated in the SVN source tree). We also need to add a ZOO
>>> Service Provider which will access some shared memory to get
>>> information on the current status of a process. I think that those
>>> two enhancement can be finalized really soon and then we can tag as
>>> 1.0.1 version. Other plan for the 2.0 version will start next week,
>>> it will include the modification of service functions signature,
>>> the main reason for creating a new version.
>>>
>>> Please use the SVN source tree and not the archive 1.0 you talked
>>> about, indeed we have to provide the new version of the archive
>>> soon for the new version present in SVN.
>>>
>>> If you need the branch quickly please let me know, we will create
>>> it faster than we planned to do.
>>>
>>> Hope to hear from you, best regards,
>>>
>>>
>>> Le 20 sept. 2010 à 13:22, Alessandro Frigeri a écrit :
>>>
>>>> Hei Nick, Venka + zooers,
>>>>
>>>> thanks for the details.  Sorry, I've missed the 1.0 was there
>>>> already there,
>>>> http://www.zoo-project.org/dl/ZOO-Kernel-1.0.tar.bz2, i'll submit
>>>> un update to our request to debian.
>>>>
>>>> Also, I've found there is already a package named "zoo", to
>>>> manipulate zoo archives.  So we can go with with "zoowps"
>>>> "zoo-wps" or whatever is good to differentiate from the other
>>>> package.  Suggestions are welcome so we can start up in good
>>>> shape with debian and the ubuntu packages.
>>>>
>>>> For the version scheme, it seems ok to me.  Nick, let's
>>>> experiment an svn copy trunk to some 1.0.x tag.
>>>>
>>>> Alessandro
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> 2010/9/20 Venkatesh Raghavan<raghavan at media.osaka-cu.ac.jp>:
>>>>> Hi Alessandro,
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks for the follow-up at debian/ubuntu miniconf regarding
>>>>> ZOO
>>>>>
>>>>> I think ZOO could follow the similar scheme as GRASS GIS as
>>>>> below;
>>>>>
>>>>> Version number scheme:
>>>>>
>>>>> * first number: major release number * secondary number: minor
>>>>> release number (stable/development indicator) * third number:
>>>>> revision
>>>>>
>>>>> Scheme for ZOO-Kernel 1.0.1 which is presently available would
>>>>> be as follows
>>>>>
>>>>> a) 1 being the major release number b) 0 being the minor
>>>>> release number c) 1 being the revision
>>>>>
>>>>> Any suggestions from others?
>>>>>
>>>>> Best
>>>>>
>>>>> Venka
>>>>>
>>>>> On 2010/09/20 6:00, nicolas bozon wrote:
>>>>>> Hi Alessandro,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks for the request to Debian ! ZOO Kernel was released on
>>>>>> April 2010 under 1.0 version. We are now under the 1.0.1
>>>>>> since last week, as the svn was updated with new version by
>>>>>> gerald I think we still have to improve the branching, you're
>>>>>> right. Best,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Nick
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 2010/9/19 Alessandro Frigeri<afrigeri at unipg.it>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hi zooers,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The debian/ubuntu mini conf was very fruitful - nice ideas
>>>>>>> and nice people.  For zoo, I've placed a request on
>>>>>>> debian:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=597445
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Are you guys going to tag a release (e.g. 1.0 or whatever
>>>>>>> call a major/minor version)?  It will be a lot easier to
>>>>>>> refer the package to a tagged version (and produce package
>>>>>>> files accordingly).
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Ciao!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Alessandro
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 2010/9/17 Venkatesh
>>>>>>> Raghavan<raghavan at media.osaka-cu.ac.jp>:
>>>>>>>> Hi Alessandro,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Was great meeting you in Barcelona. Gerald, David and
>>>>>>>> Yoshida have trying to make the Debian package from
>>>>>>>> ZOO-Kernel.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Maybe you can help us. Also, please consider joining the
>>>>>>>> ZOO-Discuss ML.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Best
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Venka
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> -- Alessandro Frigeri, PhD
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