[Zoo-discuss] ZOO in OpenCloud

Frans Thamura frans at meruvian.org
Tue Jul 9 04:23:49 PDT 2013


Thx bro.

Glad anything connected.

F
On Jul 9, 2013 6:15 PM, "Daisuke YOSHIDA" <nro2dai at gmail.com> wrote:

> Frans,
>
> Recently, I attended an open source cloud conference in Japan and had
> interesting talks with key persons of OpenStack community.
> We can think to invite them as a guest speaker in our university and
> seek future collaborations.
>
> I do not have any connections with Cloudfoundary so far.
> I will share in this ML if I get the connection with the community.
>
> Best regards,
>
> Daisuke Yoshida
>
> 2013/7/9 Frans Thamura <frans at meruvian.org>:
> > Daisuke,
> >
> > I can connect you with OpenStack JApan, which I have introduce him to
> > Venka , in our last FOSS4G, but we cant met, i think next time :)
> >
> > they are in Tokyo.
> >
> > I wish can bring openstack-indonesia (lead by me), and zoo (both we
> > part right), and openstack-japan.
> >
> > i still seeking cloudfoundry japan now ;). -> openstack-cloudfoundry
> > connection still on the way here..
> >
> > I am still finding how to put tracemonkey in cloudfoundry, because no
> > tracemonkey gateway and node, still dunno how to deploy.. but nodejs..
> >
> > F
> >
> >
> > On Fri, Jun 21, 2013 at 9:49 PM, Daisuke YOSHIDA <nro2dai at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >> Hello Frans and All,
> >>
> >> (I think we'd better put a different thread for this topic.)
> >> I am still testing OpenStack for ZOO services. will report you in this
> >> ML when I got interesting outputs.
> >>
> >> But I'd like to share this, as you may know,
> >> Next version of OpenStack (Havana) will include interesting and useful
> >> functions like
> >> ・Metering (Ceilometer): Central collection fro metering/monitoring data
> >> Example: Collect usage information for billing systems
> >> ・Orchestration (Heat): Template-based orchestration engine for OpenStack
> >> Example: Developers define application deployment patterns
> >> ・LBaaS: Expect to see more plugins and ecosystem activity
> >> http://www.openstack.org/software/roadmap/
> >>
> >> Daisuke Yoshida
> >>
> >> 2013/6/21 Frans Thamura <frans at meruvian.org>:
> >>> Waitng Yoshida reply the cloud implementation.of zoo that he know.
> >>>
> >>> I am.interest to put a lot of zoo in paas cloudfoundry. To make
> hundreds
> >>> zoo.instance in one server.
> >>>
> >>> F
> >>>
> >>> On Jun 21, 2013 4:27 PM, "Fenoy Gerald" <gerald.fenoy at geolabs.fr>
> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> René,
> >>>> thanks a lot for the informations shared with ZOO-Project community
> it is
> >>>> really appreciated.
> >>>>
> >>>> As you said, we should probably start by upgrading to the current
> version
> >>>> of SpiderMonkey, moreover if it give ZOO-Kernel more performance in
> treating
> >>>> the JavaScirpt code, which we are happy to hear that it gets a future
> >>>> finally. Note that my proposal to move to V8 was following your
> comment
> >>>> about future of SpiderMonkey which sounded compromised to me. I know
> that
> >>>> thing changes and I am really happy that you keep us informed of this
> move.
> >>>> indeed, it is really important for us to keep current JavaScript code
> >>>> running as production applications may failed in other case.
> >>>>
> >>>> Frans,
> >>>> ZOO-Project is already running on cloud platform, I'm pretty sure that
> >>>> Yoshida can say more on this as he is the guy which is focussing on
> this
> >>>> specific topic.
> >>>>
> >>>> About tutorial on porting ZOO-Kernel to V8 I wonder if there is any
> >>>> honestly, I just gave the XPCOM component a try by making so many
> >>>> modifications in the code, that is one key reason why it was never
> committed
> >>>> on the SVN server.
> >>>>
> >>>> What about getting both support finally ? I mean, we may keep the
> >>>> SpiderMonkey support available as it is an ongoing project and we can
> add
> >>>> the V8 support. This way, when running configure you can specify the
> >>>> javascript engine you prefer to use. I also think that it may be
> important
> >>>> to not embed SpiderMonkey from a V8 version of the ZOO-Kernel, I
> don't know
> >>>> clearly here. But if this is the case then it makes even more sense
> to get
> >>>> both support.
> >>>>
> >>>> Waiting for your comments,
> >>>> Best regards
> >>>>
> >>>> Gérald Fenoy
> >>>> ZOO-Project PSC Chair
> >>>>
> >>>> Le 21 juin 2013 à 11:11, Frans Thamura <frans at meruvian.org> a écrit :
> >>>>
> >>>> > Rene
> >>>> >
> >>>> > I am not v8 person..yes. we have a work related.to it.
> >>>> >
> >>>> > This thread i believe start my post to bring zoo to cloud. May be
> >>>> > geralrd can answer this
> >>>> >
> >>>> > F
> >>>> >
> >>>> > On Jun 21, 2013 4:01 PM, "rldhont" <rldhont at gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>> > Hi Frans,
> >>>> >
> >>>> > I'm a Mozilla contributor, and I just inform the Zoo Community that
> >>>> > Mozilla restarted to propose an alternative to V8.
> >>>> >
> >>>> > If it's really important for Zoo Community to get the current
> JavaScript
> >>>> > services still working with less development it's possible.
> >>>> >
> >>>> > I can't help to integrating V8.
> >>>> >
> >>>> > René-Luc
> >>>> >
> >>>> > Le 21/06/2013 10:52, Frans Thamura a écrit :
> >>>> >> Talking v8
> >>>> >>
> >>>> >> Nodejs as v8 implementation raise up
> >>>> >>
> >>>> >> I am interest with zoo repositioning.
> >>>> >>
> >>>> >> If we can get small tutorial. We can help to put.in paas clous
> >>>> >>
> >>>> >> On Jun 21, 2013 3:39 PM, "rldhont" <rldhont at gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>> >> Hi Zoo community,
> >>>> >>
> >>>> >> After 2 years without publishing standalone spidermonkey, Mozilla
> has
> >>>> >> released stable source code based on Firefox 17.
> >>>> >> The next release will be SpiderMonkey24 based on Firefox 24.
> >>>> >>
> >>>> >> You can find all the documentation here :
> >>>> >> https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/SpiderMonkey
> >>>> >>
> >>>> >> The zoo can have parformant JavaScript without refactoring the
> >>>> >> provider.
> >>>> >>
> >>>> >> René-Luc
> >>>> >>
> >>>> >> Le 21/06/2013 10:30, Frans Thamura a écrit :
> >>>> >>> Awesome
> >>>> >>> That is cool
> >>>> >>> I love to be part.
> >>>> >>>
> >>>> >>> Esp we can help to makr.zoo paas compatible
> >>>> >>> Nodejs can become reference
> >>>> >>>
> >>>> >>> On Jun 21, 2013 3:27 PM, "Fenoy Gerald" <gerald.fenoy at geolabs.fr>
> >>>> >>> wrote:
> >>>> >>> Frans,
> >>>> >>> I speak about replacing the JavaScript service support from Spider
> >>>> >>> Monkey to V8 by now.
> >>>> >>>
> >>>> >>> In the past, we got the ZOO-Kernel running as an XPCOM Component
> on
> >>>> >>> windows platform (let say three years ago) but i would first like
> to try to
> >>>> >>> make the ZOO-Kernel able to handle JavaScript services by using
> V8 rather
> >>>> >>> than the current Spider Monkey.
> >>>> >>>
> >>>> >>> In anyway, if some forces can join the effort and provide the V8
> >>>> >>> version of ZOO-Kernel it can be really useful.
> >>>> >>>
> >>>> >>> Best regards,
> >>>> >>>
> >>>> >>> Gérald Fenoy
> >>>> >>> ZOO-Project PSC chair
> >>>> >>>
> >>>> >>>
> >>>> >>>
> >>>> >>> Le 21 juin 2013 à 10:22, Frans Thamura <frans at meruvian.org> a
> écrit :
> >>>> >>>
> >>>> >>> > Wow next zoo in v8
> >>>> >>> >
> >>>> >>> > That can easily become paas ready apps
> >>>> >>> >
> >>>> >>> > On Jun 21, 2013 3:12 PM, "Fenoy Gerald" <
> gerald.fenoy at geolabs.fr>
> >>>> >>> > wrote:
> >>>> >>> > Frans,
> >>>> >>> > I forward this email to the ZOO-Discuss mailing list.
> >>>> >>> >
> >>>> >>> > I would like to ask in anybody in the community want to handle
> the
> >>>> >>> > implementation of embedding  the V8 engine in place of the
> SpiderMonkey in
> >>>> >>> > the ZOO-Kernel ?
> >>>> >>> >
> >>>> >>> > You can find some informations here : [1]
> >>>> >>> >
> >>>> >>> > Note that it is really important for us to get the current
> >>>> >>> > JavaScript services still working the same way after migrating
> to V8 engine
> >>>> >>> > as many production applications rely on it right now. Let say
> too much to
> >>>> >>> > re-implement everything.
> >>>> >>> >
> >>>> >>> > Waiting for your answer.
> >>>> >>> > Best regards,
> >>>> >>> >
> >>>> >>> > Gérald Fenoy
> >>>> >>> > ZOO-Project PSC Chair
> >>>> >>> >
> >>>> >>> > [1]
> >>>> >>> >
> http://zoo-project.org/trac/wiki/ZOO_SoC_Ideas#ZOO-Kernelrelatedideas
> >>>> >>> >
> >>>> >>> > Le 15 juin 2013 à 04:54, Frans Thamura <frans at meruvian.org> a
> écrit
> >>>> >>> > :
> >>>> >>> >
> >>>> >>> > > V8 is the chrome engine
> >>>> >>> > >
> >>>> >>> > > https://developers.google.com/v8/embed
> >>>> >>> > >
> >>>> >>> > > because this tutorial, we can embed in paas, and nodejs also
> run
> >>>> >>> > > on paas now
> >>>> >>> > >
> >>>> >>> > > nodejs is build on top of v8
> >>>> >>> > >
> >>>> >>> > >
> >>>> >>> > > --
> >>>> >>> > > Frans Thamura (曽志胜)
> >>>> >>> > > Shadow Master and Lead Investor
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