[Zoo-discuss] ZOO in OpenCloud

Tue Jul 9 04:15:39 PDT 2013

Frans,

Recently, I attended an open source cloud conference in Japan and had
interesting talks with key persons of OpenStack community.
We can think to invite them as a guest speaker in our university and
seek future collaborations.

I do not have any connections with Cloudfoundary so far.
I will share in this ML if I get the connection with the community.

Best regards,

Daisuke Yoshida

2013/7/9 Frans Thamura <frans at meruvian.org>:
> Daisuke,
>
> I can connect you with OpenStack JApan, which I have introduce him to
> Venka , in our last FOSS4G, but we cant met, i think next time :)
>
> they are in Tokyo.
>
> I wish can bring openstack-indonesia (lead by me), and zoo (both we
> part right), and openstack-japan.
>
> i still seeking cloudfoundry japan now ;). -> openstack-cloudfoundry
> connection still on the way here..
>
> I am still finding how to put tracemonkey in cloudfoundry, because no
> tracemonkey gateway and node, still dunno how to deploy.. but nodejs..
>
> F
>
>
> On Fri, Jun 21, 2013 at 9:49 PM, Daisuke YOSHIDA <nro2dai at gmail.com> wrote:
>> Hello Frans and All,
>>
>> (I think we'd better put a different thread for this topic.)
>> I am still testing OpenStack for ZOO services. will report you in this
>> ML when I got interesting outputs.
>>
>> But I'd like to share this, as you may know,
>> Next version of OpenStack (Havana) will include interesting and useful
>> functions like
>> ・Metering (Ceilometer): Central collection fro metering/monitoring data
>>　　 Example: Collect usage information for billing systems
>> ・Orchestration (Heat): Template-based orchestration engine for OpenStack
>>　　 Example: Developers define application deployment patterns
>> ・LBaaS: Expect to see more plugins and ecosystem activity
>> http://www.openstack.org/software/roadmap/
>>
>> Daisuke Yoshida
>>
>> 2013/6/21 Frans Thamura <frans at meruvian.org>:
>>> Waitng Yoshida reply the cloud implementation.of zoo that he know.
>>>
>>> I am.interest to put a lot of zoo in paas cloudfoundry. To make hundreds
>>> zoo.instance in one server.
>>>
>>> F
>>>
>>> On Jun 21, 2013 4:27 PM, "Fenoy Gerald" <gerald.fenoy at geolabs.fr> wrote:
>>>
>>>> René,
>>>> thanks a lot for the informations shared with ZOO-Project community it is
>>>> really appreciated.
>>>>
>>>> As you said, we should probably start by upgrading to the current version
>>>> of SpiderMonkey, moreover if it give ZOO-Kernel more performance in treating
>>>> the JavaScirpt code, which we are happy to hear that it gets a future
>>>> finally. Note that my proposal to move to V8 was following your comment
>>>> about future of SpiderMonkey which sounded compromised to me. I know that
>>>> thing changes and I am really happy that you keep us informed of this move.
>>>> indeed, it is really important for us to keep current JavaScript code
>>>> running as production applications may failed in other case.
>>>>
>>>> Frans,
>>>> ZOO-Project is already running on cloud platform, I'm pretty sure that
>>>> Yoshida can say more on this as he is the guy which is focussing on this
>>>> specific topic.
>>>>
>>>> About tutorial on porting ZOO-Kernel to V8 I wonder if there is any
>>>> honestly, I just gave the XPCOM component a try by making so many
>>>> modifications in the code, that is one key reason why it was never committed
>>>> on the SVN server.
>>>>
>>>> What about getting both support finally ? I mean, we may keep the
>>>> SpiderMonkey support available as it is an ongoing project and we can add
>>>> the V8 support. This way, when running configure you can specify the
>>>> javascript engine you prefer to use. I also think that it may be important
>>>> to not embed SpiderMonkey from a V8 version of the ZOO-Kernel, I don't know
>>>> clearly here. But if this is the case then it makes even more sense to get
>>>> both support.
>>>>
>>>> Waiting for your comments,
>>>> Best regards
>>>>
>>>> Gérald Fenoy
>>>> ZOO-Project PSC Chair
>>>>
>>>> Le 21 juin 2013 à 11:11, Frans Thamura <frans at meruvian.org> a écrit :
>>>>
>>>> > Rene
>>>> >
>>>> > I am not v8 person..yes. we have a work related.to it.
>>>> >
>>>> > This thread i believe start my post to bring zoo to cloud. May be
>>>> > geralrd can answer this
>>>> >
>>>> > F
>>>> >
>>>> > On Jun 21, 2013 4:01 PM, "rldhont" <rldhont at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> > Hi Frans,
>>>> >
>>>> > I'm a Mozilla contributor, and I just inform the Zoo Community that
>>>> > Mozilla restarted to propose an alternative to V8.
>>>> >
>>>> > If it's really important for Zoo Community to get the current JavaScript
>>>> > services still working with less development it's possible.
>>>> >
>>>> > I can't help to integrating V8.
>>>> >
>>>> > René-Luc
>>>> >
>>>> > Le 21/06/2013 10:52, Frans Thamura a écrit :
>>>> >> Talking v8
>>>> >>
>>>> >> Nodejs as v8 implementation raise up
>>>> >>
>>>> >> I am interest with zoo repositioning.
>>>> >>
>>>> >> If we can get small tutorial. We can help to put.in paas clous
>>>> >>
>>>> >> On Jun 21, 2013 3:39 PM, "rldhont" <rldhont at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> >> Hi Zoo community,
>>>> >>
>>>> >> After 2 years without publishing standalone spidermonkey, Mozilla has
>>>> >> released stable source code based on Firefox 17.
>>>> >> The next release will be SpiderMonkey24 based on Firefox 24.
>>>> >>
>>>> >> You can find all the documentation here :
>>>> >> https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/SpiderMonkey
>>>> >>
>>>> >> The zoo can have parformant JavaScript without refactoring the
>>>> >> provider.
>>>> >>
>>>> >> René-Luc
>>>> >>
>>>> >> Le 21/06/2013 10:30, Frans Thamura a écrit :
>>>> >>> Awesome
>>>> >>> That is cool
>>>> >>> I love to be part.
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>> Esp we can help to makr.zoo paas compatible
>>>> >>> Nodejs can become reference
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>> On Jun 21, 2013 3:27 PM, "Fenoy Gerald" <gerald.fenoy at geolabs.fr>
>>>> >>> wrote:
>>>> >>> Frans,
>>>> >>> I speak about replacing the JavaScript service support from Spider
>>>> >>> Monkey to V8 by now.
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>> In the past, we got the ZOO-Kernel running as an XPCOM Component on
>>>> >>> windows platform (let say three years ago) but i would first like to try to
>>>> >>> make the ZOO-Kernel able to handle JavaScript services by using V8 rather
>>>> >>> than the current Spider Monkey.
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>> In anyway, if some forces can join the effort and provide the V8
>>>> >>> version of ZOO-Kernel it can be really useful.
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>> Best regards,
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>> Gérald Fenoy
>>>> >>> ZOO-Project PSC chair
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>> Le 21 juin 2013 à 10:22, Frans Thamura <frans at meruvian.org> a écrit :
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>> > Wow next zoo in v8
>>>> >>> >
>>>> >>> > That can easily become paas ready apps
>>>> >>> >
>>>> >>> > On Jun 21, 2013 3:12 PM, "Fenoy Gerald" <gerald.fenoy at geolabs.fr>
>>>> >>> > wrote:
>>>> >>> > Frans,
>>>> >>> > I forward this email to the ZOO-Discuss mailing list.
>>>> >>> >
>>>> >>> > I would like to ask in anybody in the community want to handle the
>>>> >>> > implementation of embedding  the V8 engine in place of the SpiderMonkey in
>>>> >>> > the ZOO-Kernel ?
>>>> >>> >
>>>> >>> > You can find some informations here : [1]
>>>> >>> >
>>>> >>> > Note that it is really important for us to get the current
>>>> >>> > JavaScript services still working the same way after migrating to V8 engine
>>>> >>> > as many production applications rely on it right now. Let say too much to
>>>> >>> > re-implement everything.
>>>> >>> >
>>>> >>> > Waiting for your answer.
>>>> >>> > Best regards,
>>>> >>> >
>>>> >>> > Gérald Fenoy
>>>> >>> > ZOO-Project PSC Chair
>>>> >>> >
>>>> >>> > [1]
>>>> >>> > http://zoo-project.org/trac/wiki/ZOO_SoC_Ideas#ZOO-Kernelrelatedideas
>>>> >>> >
>>>> >>> > Le 15 juin 2013 à 04:54, Frans Thamura <frans at meruvian.org> a écrit
>>>> >>> > :
>>>> >>> >
>>>> >>> > > V8 is the chrome engine
>>>> >>> > >
>>>> >>> > > https://developers.google.com/v8/embed
>>>> >>> > >
>>>> >>> > > because this tutorial, we can embed in paas, and nodejs also run
>>>> >>> > > on paas now
>>>> >>> > >
>>>> >>> > > nodejs is build on top of v8
>>>> >>> > >
>>>> >>> > >
>>>> >>> > > --
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