[Zoo-discuss] ZOO in OpenCloud

Mon Jul 8 19:34:49 PDT 2013

Daisuke,

I can connect you with OpenStack JApan, which I have introduce him to
Venka , in our last FOSS4G, but we cant met, i think next time :)

they are in Tokyo.

I wish can bring openstack-indonesia (lead by me), and zoo (both we
part right), and openstack-japan.

i still seeking cloudfoundry japan now ;). -> openstack-cloudfoundry
connection still on the way here..

I am still finding how to put tracemonkey in cloudfoundry, because no
tracemonkey gateway and node, still dunno how to deploy.. but nodejs..

F

On Fri, Jun 21, 2013 at 9:49 PM, Daisuke YOSHIDA <nro2dai at gmail.com> wrote:
> Hello Frans and All,
>
> (I think we'd better put a different thread for this topic.)
> I am still testing OpenStack for ZOO services. will report you in this
> ML when I got interesting outputs.
>
> But I'd like to share this, as you may know,
> Next version of OpenStack (Havana) will include interesting and useful
> functions like
> ・Metering (Ceilometer): Central collection fro metering/monitoring data
> 　　Example: Collect usage information for billing systems
> ・Orchestration (Heat): Template-based orchestration engine for OpenStack
> 　　Example: Developers define application deployment patterns
> ・LBaaS: Expect to see more plugins and ecosystem activity
> http://www.openstack.org/software/roadmap/
>
> Daisuke Yoshida
>
> 2013/6/21 Frans Thamura <frans at meruvian.org>:
>> Waitng Yoshida reply the cloud implementation.of zoo that he know.
>>
>> I am.interest to put a lot of zoo in paas cloudfoundry. To make hundreds
>> zoo.instance in one server.
>>
>> F
>>
>> On Jun 21, 2013 4:27 PM, "Fenoy Gerald" <gerald.fenoy at geolabs.fr> wrote:
>>
>>> René,
>>> thanks a lot for the informations shared with ZOO-Project community it is
>>> really appreciated.
>>>
>>> As you said, we should probably start by upgrading to the current version
>>> of SpiderMonkey, moreover if it give ZOO-Kernel more performance in treating
>>> the JavaScirpt code, which we are happy to hear that it gets a future
>>> finally. Note that my proposal to move to V8 was following your comment
>>> about future of SpiderMonkey which sounded compromised to me. I know that
>>> thing changes and I am really happy that you keep us informed of this move.
>>> indeed, it is really important for us to keep current JavaScript code
>>> running as production applications may failed in other case.
>>>
>>> Frans,
>>> ZOO-Project is already running on cloud platform, I'm pretty sure that
>>> Yoshida can say more on this as he is the guy which is focussing on this
>>> specific topic.
>>>
>>> About tutorial on porting ZOO-Kernel to V8 I wonder if there is any
>>> honestly, I just gave the XPCOM component a try by making so many
>>> modifications in the code, that is one key reason why it was never committed
>>> on the SVN server.
>>>
>>> What about getting both support finally ? I mean, we may keep the
>>> SpiderMonkey support available as it is an ongoing project and we can add
>>> the V8 support. This way, when running configure you can specify the
>>> javascript engine you prefer to use. I also think that it may be important
>>> to not embed SpiderMonkey from a V8 version of the ZOO-Kernel, I don't know
>>> clearly here. But if this is the case then it makes even more sense to get
>>> both support.
>>>
>>> Waiting for your comments,
>>> Best regards
>>>
>>> Gérald Fenoy
>>> ZOO-Project PSC Chair
>>>
>>> Le 21 juin 2013 à 11:11, Frans Thamura <frans at meruvian.org> a écrit :
>>>
>>> > Rene
>>> >
>>> > I am not v8 person..yes. we have a work related.to it.
>>> >
>>> > This thread i believe start my post to bring zoo to cloud. May be
>>> > geralrd can answer this
>>> >
>>> > F
>>> >
>>> > On Jun 21, 2013 4:01 PM, "rldhont" <rldhont at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> > Hi Frans,
>>> >
>>> > I'm a Mozilla contributor, and I just inform the Zoo Community that
>>> > Mozilla restarted to propose an alternative to V8.
>>> >
>>> > If it's really important for Zoo Community to get the current JavaScript
>>> > services still working with less development it's possible.
>>> >
>>> > I can't help to integrating V8.
>>> >
>>> > René-Luc
>>> >
>>> > Le 21/06/2013 10:52, Frans Thamura a écrit :
>>> >> Talking v8
>>> >>
>>> >> Nodejs as v8 implementation raise up
>>> >>
>>> >> I am interest with zoo repositioning.
>>> >>
>>> >> If we can get small tutorial. We can help to put.in paas clous
>>> >>
>>> >> On Jun 21, 2013 3:39 PM, "rldhont" <rldhont at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> >> Hi Zoo community,
>>> >>
>>> >> After 2 years without publishing standalone spidermonkey, Mozilla has
>>> >> released stable source code based on Firefox 17.
>>> >> The next release will be SpiderMonkey24 based on Firefox 24.
>>> >>
>>> >> You can find all the documentation here :
>>> >> https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/SpiderMonkey
>>> >>
>>> >> The zoo can have parformant JavaScript without refactoring the
>>> >> provider.
>>> >>
>>> >> René-Luc
>>> >>
>>> >> Le 21/06/2013 10:30, Frans Thamura a écrit :
>>> >>> Awesome
>>> >>> That is cool
>>> >>> I love to be part.
>>> >>>
>>> >>> Esp we can help to makr.zoo paas compatible
>>> >>> Nodejs can become reference
>>> >>>
>>> >>> On Jun 21, 2013 3:27 PM, "Fenoy Gerald" <gerald.fenoy at geolabs.fr>
>>> >>> wrote:
>>> >>> Frans,
>>> >>> I speak about replacing the JavaScript service support from Spider
>>> >>> Monkey to V8 by now.
>>> >>>
>>> >>> In the past, we got the ZOO-Kernel running as an XPCOM Component on
>>> >>> windows platform (let say three years ago) but i would first like to try to
>>> >>> make the ZOO-Kernel able to handle JavaScript services by using V8 rather
>>> >>> than the current Spider Monkey.
>>> >>>
>>> >>> In anyway, if some forces can join the effort and provide the V8
>>> >>> version of ZOO-Kernel it can be really useful.
>>> >>>
>>> >>> Best regards,
>>> >>>
>>> >>> Gérald Fenoy
>>> >>> ZOO-Project PSC chair
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>> Le 21 juin 2013 à 10:22, Frans Thamura <frans at meruvian.org> a écrit :
>>> >>>
>>> >>> > Wow next zoo in v8
>>> >>> >
>>> >>> > That can easily become paas ready apps
>>> >>> >
>>> >>> > On Jun 21, 2013 3:12 PM, "Fenoy Gerald" <gerald.fenoy at geolabs.fr>
>>> >>> > wrote:
>>> >>> > Frans,
>>> >>> > I forward this email to the ZOO-Discuss mailing list.
>>> >>> >
>>> >>> > I would like to ask in anybody in the community want to handle the
>>> >>> > implementation of embedding  the V8 engine in place of the SpiderMonkey in
>>> >>> > the ZOO-Kernel ?
>>> >>> >
>>> >>> > You can find some informations here : [1]
>>> >>> >
>>> >>> > Note that it is really important for us to get the current
>>> >>> > JavaScript services still working the same way after migrating to V8 engine
>>> >>> > as many production applications rely on it right now. Let say too much to
>>> >>> > re-implement everything.
>>> >>> >
>>> >>> > Waiting for your answer.
>>> >>> > Best regards,
>>> >>> >
>>> >>> > Gérald Fenoy
>>> >>> > ZOO-Project PSC Chair
>>> >>> >
>>> >>> > [1]
>>> >>> > http://zoo-project.org/trac/wiki/ZOO_SoC_Ideas#ZOO-Kernelrelatedideas
>>> >>> >
>>> >>> > Le 15 juin 2013 à 04:54, Frans Thamura <frans at meruvian.org> a écrit
>>> >>> > :
>>> >>> >
>>> >>> > > V8 is the chrome engine
>>> >>> > >
>>> >>> > > https://developers.google.com/v8/embed
>>> >>> > >
>>> >>> > > because this tutorial, we can embed in paas, and nodejs also run
>>> >>> > > on paas now
>>> >>> > >
>>> >>> > > nodejs is build on top of v8
>>> >>> > >
>>> >>> > >
>>> >>> > > --
>>> >>> > > Frans Thamura (曽志胜)
>>> >>> > > Shadow Master and Lead Investor
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