[GRASS-windows] notes on updating GRASS via native installer onwindows vista......

Fri Jul 25 14:45:12 EDT 2008

Hi Marco,
 (apologies for replacing your name with Marcus sometimes in my previous email - I'm working 18 hour days at the moment!!)

I'll try what you suggest and let you know.
Definitely no problems at my end  - I think the installer is great (I am able to do all I need at the moment with GRASS and can't wait to start to explore the full potential)!

Best wishes,
Darren

> From: marcopstt at gmail.com> To: doon75 at hotmail.com; grass-windows at lists.osgeo.org> Subject: Re: [GRASS-windows] notes on updating GRASS via native installer onwindows vista......> Date: Fri, 25 Jul 2008 12:47:26 +0200> > Hi Darren,> > >1) I didn't know that there is no need to uninstall (Marcus - I did it > >before your note!!)- can this be added to the installation notes of the > >page in the link above (or did I >just miss it)?> > no, you did not miss that, there isn't. I added that information here > http://grass.osgeo.org/grass63/binary/mswindows/native/README.html#Binary%20Release%20History > (see last item). I decided to not put it in the installation notes because > it may not work if installed on a WinGRASS release (6.3.0-RC, -1 or -2). I > will add it.> > >2) I uninstalled GRASS first (from icon on start menu) and also ran a > >registry clean but the new install still detected an old version???? Does > >this mean there are >"bits" of GRASS floating around that are not > >uninstalled properly?> > it may be caused by the user control limits on Vista. To be sure, uninstall > GRASS, open the registry (run regedit), search for GRASS in > HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE; if present, it means that the uninstall process > didn't have the rights to access the registry and perform the task> > >3) I have never managed to run the installation with the North Carolina > >sample dataset, install just stalls (South Dakota / Spearfish is > >fine)...maybe something to do >with the tar / gzip stuff ??> > did the installer download the file but not extract it? or did it neither > download it?> writing the script I had lots of problems with the untar section, that took > me 4 days (!!) to fix it! ... but finally I fixed it, so I think that it > could be another "limit" caused by the Vista UAC system or the Vista (or > whatever) firewall running on tour system> > >4) I have a dial up connection so saved the setup .exe (didn't run it). > >First time I tried to run the setup (from the saved file) it didn't work (I > >know this as the new >windows command line feature wasn't added to the > >start menu). The setup went through the full process (automatically > >detected previous version etc see note >above) but did not seem to install > >/ update full features. Then I tried running the setup .exe again as > >administrator (right clicked on the .exe, run as administrator)- >now > >setup worked fine (probably - I haven't checked all I was doing > >before)....Is it worth adding a warning about user account control to the > >install info?> > well, I actually added a warning about the UAC, and I tested it on Vista > Home... and it works! maybe there's something different in the Professional > release that I don't know...> > >5) I'm not sure if it is necessary to restart for the install to "take > >effect"?> > definetely not> > well, I'm afraid about all that problems you encountered, I tried to > "desiggn" the installer as best as possible, to let it work on both XP (Home > and Pro) and Vista... what I can suggest you, when you run GRASS, is to > disable the UAC; it's not a good suggestion, actually, but I can tell you > that I needed to disable it (I do hard jobs on my system, and I definetely > cannot be "warned" and "asked" for permission for every low level task I > permorm on it)... and I'm pretty happy! I also disabled the built-in > firewall and used an external (third part) one... and all works fine. But > there's another issue: I'm pretty sure that the UAC system causes other > crashes or bugs on Vista (see, for example, )> > Finally, try to uninstall GRASS giving to /GRASS/Unisnstall-GRASS.exe the > administrator permissions, and then install GRASS giving the same to it, > plus the permission (from your running firewall) to access the internet, and > tell me what happens.> > Regards,> > Marco > 
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