[pdal] Conda for official Mac/Windows PDAL packages?

Fri Jun 1 15:32:21 PDT 2018

hmmmm... I'm really fine with conda package but especially because I'm a
linux user and there I can use a single interpreter... but what is the case
in win? If I want to share my env and data with a qgis python env, this
wouldn't be possibile.

so, I'm for a -1, sorry

Luigi Pirelli

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On 1 June 2018 at 17:37, Albert Godfrind <albert.godfrind at oracle.com> wrote:

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> On 1-Jun-2018, at 16:19, Jean-Francois Prieur <jfprieur at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> As a python user under windows, I much prefer a Conda solution over
> OSGeo4w. Thank you for all your work
>
> JF
>
> On Fri, Jun 1, 2018 at 9:18 AM Kristian Evers <kreve at sdfe.dk> wrote:
>
>> Howard,
>>
>>
>>
>> As a user of both OS X, Windows and occasionally PDAL, I would welcome
>> such a change. As a user I find both Homebrew and OSGeo4W less than
>> optimal. Homebrew is generally a nice environment but it has proven
>> difficult to maintain the various OSGeo packages in a way that is easily
>> compatible with the core homebrew set of packages.
>>
>> As a developer/maintainer I unfortunately find OSGeo4W very fragile at
>> the moment. Primarily because of the few people who are actively
>> maintaining it (it is more or less a one person operation it seems). On top
>> of that it is very difficult to be a “drive-by” contributor because
>> ultimately SSH access is required. Homebrew works fairly well from a
>> maintainer perspective, but when it comes to the OSGeo packages it is still
>> problematic.
>>
>>
>>
>> The conda forge ecosystem removes all of the above problems and in my
>> experience everything just works. Both from a user and maintainer
>> perspective. So for what it’s worth, a +1 from me.
>>
>>
>>
>> /Kristian
>>
>>
>>
>> *Fra:* pdal [mailto:pdal-bounces at lists.osgeo.org] *På vegne af *Howard
>> Butler
>> *Sendt:* 1. juni 2018 14:53
>> *Til:* pdal <pdal at lists.osgeo.org>
>> *Emne:* [pdal] Conda for official Mac/Windows PDAL packages?
>>
>>
>>
>> All,
>>
>>
>>
>> Brad's recently announced [1] Conda Forge packages for PDAL proved wildly
>> successful for our recent FOSS4GNA workshop [2]. The current PDAL packaging
>> story is rather messy, with OSGeo4W (64-bit only) available for Windows,
>> Homebrew for OSX, and Debian/RedHat packages being provided by the
>> distributions. Docker is also in the mix, although that's a separate thread
>>
>>
>>
>> The OSGeo4W package creation process is now fully automated through
>> PDAL's AppVeyor continuous integration, but the upload, tagging, and
>> release of the package is still a manual activity. OSGeo4W can also be very
>> brittle for people, especially as an installation, and it often lacks the
>> refresh of underlying system support packages on which everything is based.
>>
>>
>>
>> Homebrew PDAL packages for OSX are also available, but they are only
>> available to 1.6 and installations can be fickle, especially when it comes
>> to updating.
>>
>>
>>
>> The appeal of Conda Forge as a packager is a single upstream for
>> packaging efforts, a build system that doesn't require our project to
>> maintain it (currently done with OSGeo4W), and convenient usability of the
>> packages for the users.  Another strong appeal of Conda Forge is the
>> workflow of package creation, changes, patches, and refresh can be done
>> through typical pull-request workflow. OSGeo4W updates require SSH access
>> to a machine (that is sometimes down), and manual button mashing with
>> careful manual post validation.
>>
>>
>>
>> I'm proposing that we drop the OSGeo4W and Homebrew package support in
>> exchange for the Conda Forge ecosystem. I'm interested in hearing from
>> users of the Homebrew and OSGeo4W packages on that topic, however. Would
>> this drastically upend your workflow? Make things simpler? If these
>> packaging approaches are critical for you, can you step forward to take
>> over their care with some hand-off?
>>
>>
>>
>> If there's no significant objection, PDAL 1.8 will target Conda as the
>> primary packaging environment for Mac/Windows.
>>
>>
>>
>> Howard
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> [1] https://lists.osgeo.org/pipermail/pdal/2018-April/001559.html
>> <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__lists.osgeo.org_pipermail_pdal_2018-2DApril_001559.html&d=DwMFaQ&c=RoP1YumCXCgaWHvlZYR8PZh8Bv7qIrMUB65eapI_JnE&r=mKGA_fya8bT3EmZXi2DYrGVQVA5nSZYLWk-GjzepWbs&m=z354v-m4QGXKT-5U185kvWRW3EY_DkEHANzTLC0vyuk&s=5K8NOfChfYMVxuIniKMxCgBgyZLKZQJHCLFwhjG6BsA&e=>
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>> [2] https://2018.foss4g-na.org/session/point-cloud-
>> processing-and-analysis-pdal
>> <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__2018.foss4g-2Dna.org_session_point-2Dcloud-2Dprocessing-2Dand-2Danalysis-2Dpdal&d=DwMFaQ&c=RoP1YumCXCgaWHvlZYR8PZh8Bv7qIrMUB65eapI_JnE&r=mKGA_fya8bT3EmZXi2DYrGVQVA5nSZYLWk-GjzepWbs&m=z354v-m4QGXKT-5U185kvWRW3EY_DkEHANzTLC0vyuk&s=5TT5FFqp2H9SvNDVX5gH-suYBOYgfXCOw0qHM1yix7A&e=>
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