[Qgis-psc] Release post

Tim Sutton tim at kartoza.com
Sun Oct 28 23:40:17 PDT 2018


Hi


> On 29 Oct 2018, at 00:37, Nyall Dawson <nyall.dawson at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> On Mon, 29 Oct 2018 at 07:52, Marco Bernasocchi <marco at qgis.org <mailto:marco at qgis.org>> wrote:
>> 
>> Well I think the main think is I guess that win and ubuntu/debian are
>> very predictable while mac isnt as well.
>> 
>> I'd be great to change this.
> 
> What I'm saying is that we've always taken this viewpoint in the past,
> with the message "Mac users aren't pulling their weight -- contribute
> (financially or otherwise) to improve the situation”.

> 
> I believe that message has finally been taken seriously, and we've
> seen in 3.4 that there's at least 2 independent projects where
> financial support of the mac OS platform is leading to a better
> experience there.

Yes and there has been a steady trickle of targeted donations for macOS coming in the last months.

> 
> As a result, can't we just delay the release post for (let's say a
> maximum of 1 week) to give it time for packaging for this platform? At
> worst, we delay the post by a week. At best, we'll have builds
> available for at time of posting for more major platforms, and less
> "where are the packages for XXX operating system" complaints from
> users.
> 

+1 for this, and in parallel reach out to William to see what is package ETA. From the chatter on the dev list from him, I would say that he is busy prepping packages...


> If it doesn't work then the only downside is a week later release
> post, and we can go back to the old approach for 3.6…

Regards

Tim

> 
> Nyall
> 
> 
>> 
>> by the way I don't think that "tricking" our mach users with download
>> 3.4 that links to http://qgis.org/downloads/macOS/QGIS-macOS-3.2.3-1.dmg
>> will work :D
>> 
>> @ richard is that link generated automatically?
>> 
>> cheers
>> 
>> Marco
>> 
>> On 28.10.18 22:22, Nyall Dawson wrote:
>>> On Mon, 29 Oct 2018 at 01:21, Tim Sutton <tim at kartoza.com> wrote:
>>>> Hi
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> On 26 Oct 2018, at 16:50, Régis Haubourg <regis.haubourg at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Hi all, thanks for that.
>>>> I agree that we should release the post when windows and ubuntu / debian binaries are out, just to avoid the noise we have had in the past releases.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Why leave out macOS in that list? :-P Lets rather have all major platforms included in our planning….
>>> +1 to this. We always get so much user angst and hurt from mac users
>>> after our release announcements. Could we try this cycle to hold it
>>> back to give a reasonable time for mac packaging and see how it goes?
>>> 
>>> Nyall
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> Regards
>>>> 
>>>> Tim
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> I rephrased the text like this in the draft:
>>>> 
>>>> "Windows and ubuntu/debian binaries are already out, and all the packagers are actively preparing packages for the other operating systems. We'll keep you updated when different packages and installers become available."
>>>> 
>>>> How does it sound?
>>>> 
>>>> Régis
>>>> 
>>>> Le ven. 26 oct. 2018 à 17:39, Anita Graser <anitagraser at gmx.at> a écrit :
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> On Fri, Oct 26, 2018 at 5:24 PM Jürgen E. Fischer <jef at norbit.de> wrote:
>>>>>> Depends on what we consider the release.   Either we announce it when packages
>>>>>> are ready - then the release isn't done yet.   If it's "just" the branch, tag
>>>>>> and tar ball, then it's already done.   But above doesn't fit either case.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Was just following https://github.com/qgis/QGIS/commit/4a4b62ed19d2333b1f3a9e72bf77119048e3c9c0 :)
>>>>> 
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