[Board] [Fwd: Re: Map World Forum 2011]

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On 06/07/2010 05:19 PM, christopher.schmidt at nokia.com wrote:
> On Jun 7, 2010, at 11:07 AM, ext Daniel Morissette wrote:
>
>    
>> christopher.schmidt at nokia.com wrote:
>>      
>>>> This issue again became apparent in the recent discussion around
>>>> supporting Map World Forum 2011 by GIS Development. Annu Negi from GIS
>>>> Development used "OSGeo Int." to differentiate it from the OSGeo Local
>>>> Chapter "OSGeo India". There might be other options some of which
>>>> already came up. It would be good to develop a consensus and then use on
>>>> how to name OSGeo in contexts where we need to differentiate. Here are
>>>> some suggestions off the top of my head. Please add your own ideas and
>>>> consider and comment them.
>>>> * OSGeo World
>>>> * OSGeo Main
>>>> * OSGeo International
>>>> * OSGeo Int.
>>>> * OSGeo HQ
>>>> * OSGeo
>>>>          
>>> My answer to this has always been "The OSGeo Foundation". The Foundation
>>> is the encompassing umbrella; the Local Chapters are part of it; there
>>> is no 'entity' which is "OSGeo without the local chapters" -- such a thing
>>> doesn't exist, because all of what OSGeo is is contained in the local
>>> chapters, the people in them and all the other people participating
>>> in OSGeo.
>>>
>>>        
>> Chris, and All,
>>
>> I know I'm in for a long argument with this reply, but I don't have time
>> for it now so I'll just throw my 0.02$ in support of Arnulf's
>> questioning and bail out:
>>
>> Once you start dealing with members/activities of local chapters on a
>> daily basis like Arnulf, myself and a few others do then you will start
>> to see a need for this differentiation. Of course we're all part of the
>> same community but at the same time we need a way to tell what is local
>> and what is global.
>>      
> Sure. I'm not saying there is no differentiation, I just don't think that
> "OSGeo International" is the right term; We are the OSGeo Foundation, and
> all things that are happening worldwide fit well under that billet; am
> I wrong there?
>
> "OSGeo International" sounds like a *seperate* group; the OSGeo Foundation
> sounds like a parent/umbrella to me.
>    

OK, then we do have a motion up / need to hack the Wiki because in our 
trademark guidelines [1] it actually says that "OSGeo Foundation" is 
improper usage.

Besides that I am fine with "OSGeo Foundation". Hm, that is even good 
for a small typo as in "OSGeo Fundation" what it really should be.

Regards,
Arnulf.

[1] http://www.osgeo.org/content/foundation/legal/trademark_guidelines.html
-> see "Our Trademarks", last sentence:
"OSGeo's trademarks should be used in their exact form, including 
capitalization -- neither abbreviated nor combined with any other word 
or words (e.g. "OSGeo" rather than "osgeo" or "OS GEO", "Open Source 
Geospatial Foundation" rather than "OSGeo Foundation", etc). "

>    
>> I didn't realize the importance of this before trying for a few years to
>> convince people to join/participate in OSGeo (the global entity) and
>> failing miserably... and then seeing how a local chapter with the same
>> individuals could grow into a vibrant community in less than two years,
>> just because we approached things locally instead of just saying "join
>> the global community". It's all the same in the end, but it's not.
>>      
> I apologize if my email was confusing; I don't disagree with any of this,
> and feel that what you have stated here is vital, but I don't like the
> name "OSGeo International" because it feels like a seperate group
> from the local chapters -- it's a parent group, not a sibling, in a
> hierarchy.
>
> Regards,
>    


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Arnulf Christl

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