[Board] Please review: Open Letter asking to avoid format fragmentation in LiDAR standards
Bart van den Eijnden
bartvde at osgis.nl
Wed Apr 22 05:01:11 PDT 2015
Jeff,
can you please clarify what you mean by "supporting a single person's agenda” ?
Are you referring to Martin here?
Best regards,
Bart
> On 22 Apr 2015, at 13:52, Jeff McKenna <jmckenna at gatewaygeomatics.com> wrote:
>
> Cameron, I personally don't appreciate supporting a single person's agenda, and was shocked yesterday to see strong quotes by you all over the media before the agreed time to release.
>
> I stand by my reaction.
>
> -jeff
>
>
>
> On 2015-04-21 8:59 PM, Cameron Shorter wrote:
>> Hi Jeff,
>> In answer to your questions about my motives and why I was quoted in media:
>>
>> I feel passionately about the importance of Open Standards. I believe
>> they are fundamental to interoperability, go hand-in-glove with Open
>> Source.
>> When I watched the heated discussing about the injustice being applied
>> to LiDAR standards, as documented by Martin, I offered to help. I
>> helped in the writing and reviewing an Open Letter, along with Suchith,
>> Patrick and Martin. One of the things that Martin mentioned was that he
>> was having difficulty getting traction in the mass media. I have
>> contacts in the Australian IT media, and offered to make use of those
>> to get the story out.
>>
>> I think you are asking why I was quoted in the media and not you?
>> 1. I contacted them.
>> 2. I helped write the Open Letter [1] and worked with people who
>> provided feedback. I also wrote follow up blog post [2], which makes it
>> easy for an author to quote someone.
>> 3. I'm local (in Australia) and local media like to quote locals.
>> 4. Martin was quoted as well.
>> 5. Jeff, you might not have been contacted because I pointed the
>> Australian IT author to the board email list, where you might remember
>> the board was slow (in media time) to respond to a request for board
>> support for the Open Letter, and when you first responded, you were
>> initially hesitant about supporting the Open Letter.
>>
>> I'm a little hurt and disappointed that the OSGeo President would find
>> it "disturbing" that a local OSGeo member was quoted in local media. I
>> feel like local efforts are not being supported?
>>
>> [1] http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/LIDAR_Format_Letter
>> [2]
>> http://cameronshorter.blogspot.com.au/2015/04/esris-claim-at-being-good-standards.html
>>
>>
>>
>> On 22/04/2015 12:43 am, Jeff McKenna wrote:
>>> Did you give the media a heads-up on this? I'm really not
>>> understanding where all this pressure is coming from (you would think
>>> I would be getting requests directly, nope none). Maybe you can
>>> explain how all that part has happened.
>>>
>>> (Martin's role in this is clear, but your own personal role in this is
>>> unclear to me, maybe you can shed some light on this here for everyone)
>>>
>>> -jeff
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 2015-04-21 11:38 AM, Jeff McKenna wrote:
>>>> That said Cameron, I would like to know why media outlets are contacting
>>>> you directly regarding this. I just read "Australian software developer
>>>> Cameron Shorter, the local chair of the not-for-profit OSGeo Foundation,
>>>> says...". Is this because you are blogging about this issue? This part
>>>> of it all is a little disturbing.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> -jeff
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 2015-04-20 9:37 PM, Cameron Shorter wrote:
>>>>> Thank you Jeff.
>>>>> I'm hopeful other board members will also express their opinions and
>>>>> vote on the motion as well.
>>>>>
>>>>> Cheers Cameron.
>>>>>
>>>>> On 21/04/2015 9:32 am, Jeff McKenna wrote:
>>>>>> Ok my last message on this; on doing some more thinking, it is as
>>>>>> Cameron said too late to change how the letter is written. So it
>>>>>> tackles Esri, OGC, and ASPRS head-on (I guess this is why myself and
>>>>>> others were voted onto the OSGeo Board). I can see Martin's face
>>>>>> looking at me and hear him saying with a smirk 'come on'. I am
>>>>>> therefore +1, after saying all that.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Sorry for speaking up so loudly.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> And thanks to Martin for all his thankless work. Special thanks to
>>>>>> mpg for his private thoughts to the OSGeo Board today as well.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Cameron thanks to you also, for letting me speak on this.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Good night everyone.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -jeff
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 2015-04-20 7:51 PM, Jeff McKenna wrote:
>>>>>>> I think you used the correct term, where an open letter could be made
>>>>>>> using that term "owner" or "developer" and avoid pointing direct
>>>>>>> fingers, and then for more background information link to the
>>>>>>> excellent
>>>>>>> explanation by Martin ("clone wars" blog post). As it is now the
>>>>>>> letter
>>>>>>> attacks Esri directly.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I guess I could be the only one who feels this way, in which case I
>>>>>>> would not hold the letter back (I am only one person in this huge
>>>>>>> open
>>>>>>> community). So don't worry I'm not planning to hold it back.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> K I'm being quiet now ha :)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> -jeff
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 2015-04-20 6:18 PM, Cameron Shorter wrote:
>>>>>>>> Do other members of the board share Jeff's opinion? Please speak up.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I'm in an awkward situation. We have 70+ OSGeo community members who
>>>>>>>> have signed this Open Letter, expecting it to be delivered as we
>>>>>>>> said we
>>>>>>>> would.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> If you wish to see the background (story) moved to another page, eg
>>>>>>>> blog, we could do that.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Jeff, I understand that you don’t want the letter delivered
>>>>>>>> unless the
>>>>>>>> word “Esri” removed? I’d argue to the they thing needing changing is
>>>>>>>> that the owner of “Optimized LAS” publish as an open format. So the
>>>>>>>> letter needs to be delivered to Esri. Is this a point you'd be
>>>>>>>> prepared
>>>>>>>> to accept being included in an Open Letter?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>>> Cameron
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 21/04/2015 3:52 am, Jeff McKenna wrote:
>>>>>>>>> Hi Cameron,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I personally feel topics like "the story" as you mention are for
>>>>>>>>> places like blogs, which I believe Martin documented very well
>>>>>>>>> already
>>>>>>>>> (I've retweeted his post months ago). What I see here on this wiki
>>>>>>>>> page is the story re-written again. I have a difficult time though
>>>>>>>>> officially supporting this story with my OSGeo Board hat on
>>>>>>>>> though, as
>>>>>>>>> it doesn't add anything more (throws salt on the wound, so to
>>>>>>>>> speak).
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I would like to see the OSGeo Board in fact support a request for
>>>>>>>>> LiDAR standards, and leave out this unfortunate "story".
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> -jeff
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On 2015-04-20 12:35 PM, Cameron Shorter wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> Hi Jeff,
>>>>>>>>>> Thanks for your feedback.
>>>>>>>>>> We did address specific comments (similar to yours) during the
>>>>>>>>>> request
>>>>>>>>>> for comment phase, before we asked for signatures.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> 1. Now that we have asked for signatures (for the last week or
>>>>>>>>>> so), it
>>>>>>>>>> is inappropriate of us to change the text that people have
>>>>>>>>>> signed up
>>>>>>>>>> to.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> 2. I do acknowledge your concerns about directly singling out one
>>>>>>>>>> vendor, and I initially tried writing the story without mentioning
>>>>>>>>>> them.
>>>>>>>>>> Unfortunately, this one vendor is so central to the format
>>>>>>>>>> fragmentation
>>>>>>>>>> story that it is difficult to tell the story and be specific about
>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>> request without mentioning them.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> 3. I'm also mindful that the story has already been breaking on
>>>>>>>>>> some
>>>>>>>>>> spatial media for a while now (one of the features of open
>>>>>>>>>> communication), and mass media is likely to break the story soon -
>>>>>>>>>> I'd
>>>>>>>>>> estimate within 12 to 48 hours. In that timeframe, I personally
>>>>>>>>>> don't
>>>>>>>>>> have the time for a rewrite.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> So unfortunately, for these 3 reasons, I think it inappropriate to
>>>>>>>>>> rewrite this Open Letter.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Jeff, I think you have made your vote clear, but can you please
>>>>>>>>>> officially vote +1, +0, 0, -0, -1 to these 2 proposals. Can the
>>>>>>>>>> rest of
>>>>>>>>>> the board please do so also as we need to decide whether the mass
>>>>>>>>>> media
>>>>>>>>>> report on this story with or without OSGeo board endorsement.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Regards, Cameron
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On 21/04/2015 12:59 am, Jeff McKenna wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Cameron,
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> In terms of my own feedback to your letter (I cannot speak for
>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>> entire OSGeo Board), I would prefer to remove any reference to
>>>>>>>>>>> any
>>>>>>>>>>> specific company or institution (such as Esri), and focus the
>>>>>>>>>>> goal of
>>>>>>>>>>> the letter (as opposed to a flame war) on the needs for standards
>>>>>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>>>>>> LiDAR data. As this page is written now, it is not a surprise
>>>>>>>>>>> to me
>>>>>>>>>>> that media outlets are drooling over this letter. But what good
>>>>>>>>>>> can
>>>>>>>>>>> come out of that, other than upsetting a large geospatial
>>>>>>>>>>> vendor in
>>>>>>>>>>> our ecosystem?
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Personally, I have spoken to Martin about this face-to-face, and
>>>>>>>>>>> I was
>>>>>>>>>>> at a presentation he did on this exact topic at FOSS4G-Asia in
>>>>>>>>>>> December (I moderated his session, small world sometimes isn't
>>>>>>>>>>> it); it
>>>>>>>>>>> is a frustrating situation that he was put through, and I support
>>>>>>>>>>> him
>>>>>>>>>>> though this.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> But, since you are asking the OSGeo Board now, I cannot support
>>>>>>>>>>> such
>>>>>>>>>>> an attack against one organization formally.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Short story: can you reword your wiki/letter to focus on
>>>>>>>>>>> standards for
>>>>>>>>>>> the LiDAR format, and not attack one organization?
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> -jeff
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On 2015-04-20 11:28 AM, Cameron Shorter wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> As Bart mentioned,
>>>>>>>>>>>> * After initially being written, the letter was sent to OSGeo
>>>>>>>>>>>> standards
>>>>>>>>>>>> list, asking for review.
>>>>>>>>>>>> * Suchith sent to OGC TC-Discuss list for review, and ESRI
>>>>>>>>>>>> responded.
>>>>>>>>>>>> * After ~ 1 week for review, the letter was forwarded to OSGeo
>>>>>>>>>>>> discuss
>>>>>>>>>>>> and a few others, asking for signatures (we have ~ 70
>>>>>>>>>>>> signatures,
>>>>>>>>>>>> growing every day)
>>>>>>>>>>>> * As per this email thread below, I've asked OSGeo board's
>>>>>>>>>>>> approval to
>>>>>>>>>>>> officially present this letter.
>>>>>>>>>>>> * Today I've had inquiries from mass media. I've asked them to
>>>>>>>>>>>> hold
>>>>>>>>>>>> off
>>>>>>>>>>>> on breaking the story until the board gives approval to
>>>>>>>>>>>> officially
>>>>>>>>>>>> present the letter, which will add extra weight to the letter.
>>>>>>>>>>>> They
>>>>>>>>>>>> didn't publish today, but may publish in 12 to 48 hours. (Media
>>>>>>>>>>>> organisations have a strong desire to be the first to publish).
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> So now the board has had time to consider, can you please all
>>>>>>>>>>>> vote on
>>>>>>>>>>>> following 2 proposals:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> I request the board support an OSGeo Community developed Open
>>>>>>>>>>>> Letter aimed at protecting open LiDAR standards.
>>>>>>>>>>>> http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/LIDAR_Format_Letter
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Proposal 1: The OSGeo Board agree to include the
>>>>>>>>>>>> following
>>>>>>>>>>>> statement (or similar wording) into the letter:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> = Cover Letter from the OSGeo Board =
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> The board of the [http://osgeo.org <http://osgeo.org/>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Open
>>>>>>>>>>>> Source Geospatial Foundation] (OSGeo) is presenting this
>>>>>>>>>>>> letter to the OGC, ESRI and ASPRS. The letter highlights
>>>>>>>>>>>> concerns about fragmentation in LiDAR standards from
>>>>>>>>>>>> many
>>>>>>>>>>>> people within the OSGeo community. As always, if
>>>>>>>>>>>> there is
>>>>>>>>>>>> anything the OSGeo board can do to help, then please
>>>>>>>>>>>> let us
>>>>>>>>>>>> know.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Signed: <OSGeo Board Members>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Proposal 2:
>>>>>>>>>>>> Once the letter has completed the signature phase, the
>>>>>>>>>>>> letter
>>>>>>>>>>>> be emailed from the OSGeo President to key people within
>>>>>>>>>>>> these
>>>>>>>>>>>> organisations:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Mark Reichardt <mreichardt AT opengeospatial.org
>>>>>>>>>>>> <http://opengeospatial.org>
>>>>>>>>>>>> <http://opengeospatial.org>>, OSGeo President
>>>>>>>>>>>> David Danko <DDanko AT esri.com <http://esri.com>
>>>>>>>>>>>> <http://esri.com>>, ESRI's
>>>>>>>>>>>> Senior Consultant for GIS Standards
>>>>>>>>>>>> Stephen D. DeGloria < sdd4 AT cornell.edu
>>>>>>>>>>>> <http://cornell.edu>
>>>>>>>>>>>> <http://cornell.edu>>, President of the ASPRS
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On 20/04/2015 10:50 pm, Bart van den Eijnden wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jeff,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> this was sent to discuss 1 week ago [1]. It has also been
>>>>>>>>>>>>> sent to
>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>> OGC TC-Discuss list where Esri has even responded.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> [1]
>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://lists.osgeo.org/pipermail/discuss/2015-April/014137.html
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Best regards,
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Bart
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 20 Apr 2015, at 14:44, Jeff McKenna
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <jmckenna at gatewaygeomatics.com
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <mailto:jmckenna at gatewaygeomatics.com>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> That would be good Maxi, as my concern is getting community
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> feedback
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> before the Board reviews such a request.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Has this letter been sent yet to the general OSGeo
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> community for
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> review? (the Discuss list) I think it is great that the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Standards
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> group reviewed it, maybe now it is ready for the general OSGeo
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> community.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -jeff
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2015-04-20 6:18 AM, Massimiliano Cannata wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thare are interesting discussions running on the italian
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> chapter
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> list.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It would be nice if someone could wrap-up a short summary of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> interesting
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> points.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I could do it in the next days if none is available.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Maxi
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2015-04-20 10:30 GMT+02:00 Jachym Cepicky
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <jachym.cepicky at gmail.com
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <mailto:jachym.cepicky at gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <mailto:jachym.cepicky at gmail.com>>:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm fine with that
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> pá 17. 4. 2015 v 8:56 odesílatel Bart van den Eijnden
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <bartvde at osgis.nl <mailto:bartvde at osgis.nl>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <mailto:bartvde at osgis.nl>> napsal:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hello board,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> do people still need time to comment on the letter or
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> can we
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> call for a motion on this?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Best regards,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Bart
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 16 Apr 2015, at 13:52, Cameron Shorter
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <cameron.shorter at gmail.com
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <mailto:cameron.shorter at gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <mailto:cameron.shorter at gmail.com>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi OSGeo Board,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I request the board support an OSGeo Community
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> developed
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Open
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Letter aimed at protecting open LiDAR standards.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/LIDAR_Format_Letter
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Proposal 1: The OSGeo Board agree to include the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> following
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> statement (or similar wording) into the letter:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> = Cover Letter from the OSGeo Board =
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The board of the [http://osgeo.org
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <http://osgeo.org/>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Open
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Source Geospatial Foundation] (OSGeo) is presenting
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> this
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> letter to the OGC, ESRI and ASPRS. The letter
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> highlights
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> concerns about fragmentation in LiDAR standards from
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> many
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> people within the OSGeo community. As always, if
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> there is
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> anything the OSGeo board can do to help, then please
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> let us
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> know.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Signed: <OSGeo Board Members>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Proposal 2:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Once the letter has completed the signature phase,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> letter
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> be emailed from the OSGeo President to key people
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> within
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> these
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> organisations:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Mark Reichardt <mreichardt AT opengeospatial.org
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <http://opengeospatial.org>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <http://opengeospatial.org>>, OSGeo President
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> David Danko <DDanko AT esri.com <http://esri.com>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <http://esri.com>>, ESRI's
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Senior Consultant for GIS Standards
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Stephen D. DeGloria < sdd4 AT cornell.edu
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <http://cornell.edu>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <http://cornell.edu>>, President of the ASPRS
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 11/04/2015 12:14 pm, Cameron Shorter wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> A number of us have been collaboratively
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> developing an
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Open
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Letter asking key stakeholders to avoid
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> fragmentation in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> LiDAR standards.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It starts:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> /We, the undersigned, are concerned that the current
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> interoperability between LiDAR applications, through
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> use of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the open "LAS" format, is being threatened by ESRI's
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> introduction and promotion of an alternative
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Optimized
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> LAS"
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> proprietary format. This is of concern since the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> fragmentation of the LAS format will lead to reduced
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> interoperability between applications and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> organisations, and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> introduce vendor lock-in./
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Could all interested please:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 1. Review and provide feedback to this standards
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> email
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> list
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2. If you agree with the letter, please add your
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> name
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Signed" section
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Cameron Shorter,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Software and Data Solutions Manager
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> LISAsoft
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Suite 112, Jones Bay Wharf,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 26 - 32 Pirrama Rd, Pyrmont NSW 2009
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> P +61 2 9009 5000, Wwww.lisasoft.com
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <http://Wwww.lisasoft.com> <http://www.lisasoft.com/>, F
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> +61 2
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