[Board] Motion: provide seed funding to FOSS4G 2016 team

Jachym Cepicky jachym.cepicky at gmail.com
Mon Aug 31 01:48:12 PDT 2015


+1

pá 28. 8. 2015 v 21:17 odesílatel Massimiliano Cannata <
massimiliano.cannata at supsi.ch> napsal:

> Dear Bart and Till
> I'm sorry for the issue but i have expressed very clear my point of view.
>
> And anyways only 4 board members have voted so far....
>
> Issue should have been raised before and only a few people provided useful
> input to the discussion so far...
>
> I hope 40k could be enough to pass 2 months... then as said amendment are
> possible (but not assured).
>
> Actually as far as we don't have other members opinion we dont even know
> if my proposal is acceptable...
>
> Maxi
> Il 28/Ago/2015 20:08, "Bart van den Eijnden" <bartvde at osgis.nl> ha
> scritto:
>
>> Till, Maxi,
>>
>> is the changed proposal even acceptable for the Bonn team? I'm guessing
>> here it is not.
>>
>> Maxi, as Till said this might require them to take insurance which might
>> be a big cost and result in much smaller profits possibly for OSGeo,
>> do we really want this?
>>
>> Till, what is your deadline? How much time do we have to discuss?
>>
>> Bart
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On 28 aug. 2015, at 19:18, Massimiliano Cannata <
>> massimiliano.cannata at supsi.ch> wrote:
>>
>> Dear all,
>> in attachment the revised agreement draft following the Seoul one.
>>
>> Best,
>> Maxi
>>
>> 2015-08-28 19:09 GMT+02:00 Massimiliano Cannata <
>> massimiliano.cannata at supsi.ch>:
>>
>>> Jeff, the draft do not take in account any of my comment.
>>>
>>> I will provide changes according to my proposal (make things identical
>>> to Seoul) if it is fine, but i don't want to mess up your things.
>>>
>>> Can I proceed?
>>>
>>> Best,
>>> maxi
>>>
>>>
>>> 2015-08-28 17:49 GMT+02:00 Jeff McKenna <jmckenna at gatewaygeomatics.com>:
>>>
>>>> Maxi, as requested I have begun the financial agreement draft:
>>>> http://svn.osgeo.org/osgeo/foss4g/2016/budget_planning/osgeo-local-committee-advance-agreement.odt
>>>>
>>>> Everyone: please edit it accordingly. (it is in OpenOffice format)
>>>>
>>>> Thanks,
>>>>
>>>> -jeff
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 2015-08-27 1:01 PM, Massimiliano Cannata wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> -1
>>>>>
>>>>> My vote is motivated by a series of reasons that took me to veto this
>>>>> motion.
>>>>>
>>>>> 1) The board has not been provided with sufficient information
>>>>> regarding
>>>>> past events to evaluate the current request
>>>>> (I need to see a summary for each past event of: seed money,
>>>>> guarantees,
>>>>> fee, total expenses, total  income, profit, OSGeo revenue)
>>>>>
>>>>> 2) I don't think OSGeo should be exposed for more then 1 FOSS4G event
>>>>> at
>>>>> the same time: it increase the risks and 1 year for event organization
>>>>> I
>>>>> believe is enough. (Next time it could be 100k * 2)
>>>>>
>>>>> 3) The 2015 FOSS4G event relies on a USD 40,000 seed money which is
>>>>> also
>>>>> the OSGeo guarantee. We know from past experiences that FOSS4G is more
>>>>> risky when organized outside Europe or USA, nevetheless we didn't
>>>>> provided such a guarantee in 2015, thus to be fair I don't think we
>>>>> shall provide it now without a deep discussion.
>>>>>
>>>>> 4) Finally (this is more a my common sense evaluation) I don't think it
>>>>> is raccomandable to take big budget decisions that may affect the
>>>>> coming
>>>>> board members activities just one week before of the elections.
>>>>>
>>>>> I strongly believe that this decision, involving such a great amount of
>>>>> money, should be postponed and submitted to the new board after the
>>>>> elections and only having a clear vision of what was the procedure
>>>>> followed in the past years. In fact, this decision will draw the line
>>>>> to
>>>>> be followed in the future for every international FOSS4G events.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> For the above mentioned motivations, acknowledging the impelling need
>>>>> of
>>>>> money of 2016 FOSS4G organizers, I propose to assign to the Bonn local
>>>>> committee the amount of USD 40,000 after the signing of afunding
>>>>> agreement identical to the one approved by the OSGeo board and signed
>>>>> by
>>>>> the OSGeo president and the Chair of FOSS4G 2015  for the Seoul event.
>>>>>
>>>>> Future amendment could be possible if approved an signed by the two
>>>>> parties.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Maxi
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> 2015-08-26 16:54 GMT+02:00 Michael Smith <michael.smith.erdc at gmail.com
>>>>> <mailto:michael.smith.erdc at gmail.com>>:
>>>>>
>>>>>     +1
>>>>>
>>>>>     Mike
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>     On 8/26/15,  10:49 AM, "Jorge Sanz" <board-bounces at lists.osgeo.org
>>>>>     <mailto:board-bounces at lists.osgeo.org> on
>>>>>     behalf of jsanz at osgeo.org <mailto:jsanz at osgeo.org>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>      >+1
>>>>>      >
>>>>>      >2015-08-26 15:52 GMT+02:00 Bart van den Eijnden <
>>>>> bartvde at osgis.nl
>>>>>     <mailto:bartvde at osgis.nl>>:
>>>>>      >> Thanks for moving this Jeff.
>>>>>      >>
>>>>>      >> +1
>>>>>      >>
>>>>>      >> Bart
>>>>>      >>
>>>>>      >>> On 26 Aug 2015, at 15:49, Jeff McKenna
>>>>>     <jmckenna at gatewaygeomatics.com <mailto:
>>>>> jmckenna at gatewaygeomatics.com>>
>>>>>      >>>wrote:
>>>>>      >>>
>>>>>      >>> Board,
>>>>>      >>>
>>>>>      >>> I've spoken with Till this morning and this is time sensitive.
>>>>>     Please
>>>>>      >>>respond within 2 business days.
>>>>>      >>>
>>>>>      >>> ***
>>>>>      >>> Motion: Set aside 100k euros for the guarantee of the FOSS4G
>>>>> 2016
>>>>>      >>>event in Bonn, and to provide 50k euros from that amount, to
>>>>> the
>>>>>     Bonn
>>>>>      >>>local committee as seed funding.  Terms of the agreement will
>>>>> be put
>>>>>      >>>into writing and signed by the chair of 2016 and OSGeo, and
>>>>>     approved by
>>>>>      >>>the OSGeo Board.
>>>>>      >>> ***
>>>>>      >>>
>>>>>      >>> This vote will help allow Till to start signing contracts etc.
>>>>>      >>>
>>>>>      >>> -jeff
>>>>>      >>>
>>>>>      >>>
>>>>>      >>>
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>> *Massimiliano Cannata*
>>
>> Professore SUPSI in ingegneria Geomatica
>>
>> Responsabile settore Geomatica
>>
>>
>> Istituto scienze della Terra
>>
>> Dipartimento ambiente costruzione e design
>>
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>>
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