[Board] Motion: provide seed funding to FOSS4G 2016 team
Massimiliano Cannata
massimiliano.cannata at supsi.ch
Fri Aug 28 12:17:07 PDT 2015
Dear Bart and Till
I'm sorry for the issue but i have expressed very clear my point of view.
And anyways only 4 board members have voted so far....
Issue should have been raised before and only a few people provided useful
input to the discussion so far...
I hope 40k could be enough to pass 2 months... then as said amendment are
possible (but not assured).
Actually as far as we don't have other members opinion we dont even know if
my proposal is acceptable...
Maxi
Il 28/Ago/2015 20:08, "Bart van den Eijnden" <bartvde at osgis.nl> ha scritto:
> Till, Maxi,
>
> is the changed proposal even acceptable for the Bonn team? I'm guessing
> here it is not.
>
> Maxi, as Till said this might require them to take insurance which might
> be a big cost and result in much smaller profits possibly for OSGeo,
> do we really want this?
>
> Till, what is your deadline? How much time do we have to discuss?
>
> Bart
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On 28 aug. 2015, at 19:18, Massimiliano Cannata <
> massimiliano.cannata at supsi.ch> wrote:
>
> Dear all,
> in attachment the revised agreement draft following the Seoul one.
>
> Best,
> Maxi
>
> 2015-08-28 19:09 GMT+02:00 Massimiliano Cannata <
> massimiliano.cannata at supsi.ch>:
>
>> Jeff, the draft do not take in account any of my comment.
>>
>> I will provide changes according to my proposal (make things identical to
>> Seoul) if it is fine, but i don't want to mess up your things.
>>
>> Can I proceed?
>>
>> Best,
>> maxi
>>
>>
>> 2015-08-28 17:49 GMT+02:00 Jeff McKenna <jmckenna at gatewaygeomatics.com>:
>>
>>> Maxi, as requested I have begun the financial agreement draft:
>>> http://svn.osgeo.org/osgeo/foss4g/2016/budget_planning/osgeo-local-committee-advance-agreement.odt
>>>
>>> Everyone: please edit it accordingly. (it is in OpenOffice format)
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>>
>>> -jeff
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 2015-08-27 1:01 PM, Massimiliano Cannata wrote:
>>>
>>>> -1
>>>>
>>>> My vote is motivated by a series of reasons that took me to veto this
>>>> motion.
>>>>
>>>> 1) The board has not been provided with sufficient information regarding
>>>> past events to evaluate the current request
>>>> (I need to see a summary for each past event of: seed money, guarantees,
>>>> fee, total expenses, total income, profit, OSGeo revenue)
>>>>
>>>> 2) I don't think OSGeo should be exposed for more then 1 FOSS4G event at
>>>> the same time: it increase the risks and 1 year for event organization I
>>>> believe is enough. (Next time it could be 100k * 2)
>>>>
>>>> 3) The 2015 FOSS4G event relies on a USD 40,000 seed money which is also
>>>> the OSGeo guarantee. We know from past experiences that FOSS4G is more
>>>> risky when organized outside Europe or USA, nevetheless we didn't
>>>> provided such a guarantee in 2015, thus to be fair I don't think we
>>>> shall provide it now without a deep discussion.
>>>>
>>>> 4) Finally (this is more a my common sense evaluation) I don't think it
>>>> is raccomandable to take big budget decisions that may affect the coming
>>>> board members activities just one week before of the elections.
>>>>
>>>> I strongly believe that this decision, involving such a great amount of
>>>> money, should be postponed and submitted to the new board after the
>>>> elections and only having a clear vision of what was the procedure
>>>> followed in the past years. In fact, this decision will draw the line to
>>>> be followed in the future for every international FOSS4G events.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> For the above mentioned motivations, acknowledging the impelling need of
>>>> money of 2016 FOSS4G organizers, I propose to assign to the Bonn local
>>>> committee the amount of USD 40,000 after the signing of afunding
>>>> agreement identical to the one approved by the OSGeo board and signed by
>>>> the OSGeo president and the Chair of FOSS4G 2015 for the Seoul event.
>>>>
>>>> Future amendment could be possible if approved an signed by the two
>>>> parties.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Maxi
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> 2015-08-26 16:54 GMT+02:00 Michael Smith <michael.smith.erdc at gmail.com
>>>> <mailto:michael.smith.erdc at gmail.com>>:
>>>>
>>>> +1
>>>>
>>>> Mike
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 8/26/15, 10:49 AM, "Jorge Sanz" <board-bounces at lists.osgeo.org
>>>> <mailto:board-bounces at lists.osgeo.org> on
>>>> behalf of jsanz at osgeo.org <mailto:jsanz at osgeo.org>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> >+1
>>>> >
>>>> >2015-08-26 15:52 GMT+02:00 Bart van den Eijnden <bartvde at osgis.nl
>>>> <mailto:bartvde at osgis.nl>>:
>>>> >> Thanks for moving this Jeff.
>>>> >>
>>>> >> +1
>>>> >>
>>>> >> Bart
>>>> >>
>>>> >>> On 26 Aug 2015, at 15:49, Jeff McKenna
>>>> <jmckenna at gatewaygeomatics.com <mailto:
>>>> jmckenna at gatewaygeomatics.com>>
>>>> >>>wrote:
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>> Board,
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>> I've spoken with Till this morning and this is time sensitive.
>>>> Please
>>>> >>>respond within 2 business days.
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>> ***
>>>> >>> Motion: Set aside 100k euros for the guarantee of the FOSS4G
>>>> 2016
>>>> >>>event in Bonn, and to provide 50k euros from that amount, to the
>>>> Bonn
>>>> >>>local committee as seed funding. Terms of the agreement will
>>>> be put
>>>> >>>into writing and signed by the chair of 2016 and OSGeo, and
>>>> approved by
>>>> >>>the OSGeo Board.
>>>> >>> ***
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>> This vote will help allow Till to start signing contracts etc.
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>> -jeff
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>>
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>> Professore SUPSI in ingegneria Geomatica
>>
>> Responsabile settore Geomatica
>>
>>
>> Istituto scienze della Terra
>>
>> Dipartimento ambiente costruzione e design
>>
>> Scuola universitaria professionale della Svizzera italiana
>>
>> Campus Trevano, CH - 6952 Canobbio
>>
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> *Massimiliano Cannata*
>
> Professore SUPSI in ingegneria Geomatica
>
> Responsabile settore Geomatica
>
>
> Istituto scienze della Terra
>
> Dipartimento ambiente costruzione e design
>
> Scuola universitaria professionale della Svizzera italiana
>
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>
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