[Board] Clarifying Board voting rules

[Michael Gerlek]

I believe that, historically, Jachym is exactly right: we’ve always meant -0 to be “I don’t like it, but I’m not going to fight about it” :-)

-mpg


> On Feb 9, 2015, at 2:35 PM, Jachym Cepicky <jachym.cepicky at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> If we agree on, -1 means "veto for now, but can be over voted", that opens a lot of interesting possibilities...
> 
> To me -0 would be something like "strongly against proposal, but don't want to slow down the democratic decision"
> 
> J
> 
> 
> On Mon, Feb 9, 2015, 19:18 Massimiliano Cannata <massimiliano.cannata at supsi.ch <mailto:massimiliano.cannata at supsi.ch>> wrote:
> Jeff,
> this is embarrassing :-)
> (OSGeo expects their project to have a clear PSC voting procedure but it has not.)
> 
> I would then change my vote to -1 (if rules permit this).
> Motivation is that there is no rationale for the request: a detailed cost estimate is in my opinion the base for any decision on allocating money for a given purpose.
> Otherwise why one should ask 10k and not 20k or 2k? How these money are going to be spent?
> 
> Or can I ask 10k to run an event (hackathon) without providing details of costs?
> 
> TO BE CLEAR, I HAVE NOTHING AGAINST STUDENT AWARD, I'm 100% in favor, but I would like to have a formulated request to get money. 
> That's all.
> 
> We could vote again this point to the next meeting, having a clear rationale for this request.
> 
> If you would stack with my -0 not blocking vote, I still can live with ;-)
> 
> Maxi
> 
> 
> 
> Il giorno Mon Feb 09 2015 at 4:33:11 PM Jeff McKenna <jmckenna at gatewaygeomatics.com <mailto:jmckenna at gatewaygeomatics.com>> ha scritto:
> 
> Board, I have recorded the voting procedure on the wiki (wow it had
> never been done) at http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Board_Voting_Procedure <http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Board_Voting_Procedure>
> Please verify and make changes directly there.  Sorry for this
> confusion. Thanks,
> 
> -jeff
> 
> 
> 
> On 2015-02-09 11:17 AM, Jeff McKenna wrote:
> > Hello Board,
> >
> > There was some confusion at the last OSGeo Board meeting regarding what
> > a "-0" vote does for a motion.  I tried to explain that a -0 is a slight
> > disagreement and that the motion would proceed (only a "-1" stops the
> > process).  It was explained to me that a "-0" stops the process, and
> > explained to me that the MapServer project does not pass a motion with a
> > "-0" vote.
> >
> > The voter in this case confirmed that the desired effect was to
> > "slightly not agree" (see logs[1]).
> >
> > I have verified that the example used, the MapServer Project Steering
> > Committee, in fact does *not* stop a motion with a "-0" vote, as
> > explained from the PSC Guidelines[2] here:
> >
> >    - A vote of -0 indicates mild disagreement, but has no effect. A 0
> > indicates no opinion. A +0 indicate mild support, but has no effect.
> >
> >    - Respondents may vote “-1” to veto a proposal, but must provide
> > clear reasoning and alternate approaches to resolving the problem within
> > the two days.
> >
> > Therefore, as I explained in the Board meeting, if someone does slightly
> > disagree with a "-0", the motion will not be affected.
> >
> > This will apply to the results of this email vote occurring now on the
> > mailing list.
> >
> > Sorry for this confusion everyone,
> >
> > -jeff
> >
> > [1] http://irclogs.geoapt.com/osgeo/%23osgeo.2015-02-05.log <http://irclogs.geoapt.com/osgeo/%23osgeo.2015-02-05.log>
> > [2] http://mapserver.org/development/rfc/ms-rfc-23.html#detailed-process <http://mapserver.org/development/rfc/ms-rfc-23.html#detailed-process>
> >
> >
> >
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