[Board] Clarifying Board voting rules

[Jachym Cepicky]

If we agree on, -1 means "veto for now, but can be over voted", that opens
a lot of interesting possibilities...

To me -0 would be something like "strongly against proposal, but don't want
to slow down the democratic decision"

J

On Mon, Feb 9, 2015, 19:18 Massimiliano Cannata <
massimiliano.cannata at supsi.ch> wrote:

> Jeff,
> this is embarrassing :-)
> (OSGeo expects their project to have a clear PSC voting procedure but it
> has not.)
>
> I would then change my vote to -1 (if rules permit this).
> Motivation is that there is no rationale for the request: a detailed cost
> estimate is in my opinion the base for any decision on allocating money for
> a given purpose.
> Otherwise why one should ask 10k and not 20k or 2k? How these money are
> going to be spent?
>
> Or can I ask 10k to run an event (hackathon) without providing details of
> costs?
>
> TO BE CLEAR, I HAVE NOTHING AGAINST STUDENT AWARD, I'm 100% in favor, but
> I would like to have a formulated request to get money.
> That's all.
>
> We could vote again this point to the next meeting, having a clear
> rationale for this request.
>
> If you would stack with my -0 not blocking vote, I still can live with ;-)
>
> Maxi
>
>
>
> Il giorno Mon Feb 09 2015 at 4:33:11 PM Jeff McKenna <
> jmckenna at gatewaygeomatics.com> ha scritto:
>
> Board, I have recorded the voting procedure on the wiki (wow it had
>> never been done) at http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Board_Voting_Procedure
>> Please verify and make changes directly there.  Sorry for this
>> confusion. Thanks,
>>
>> -jeff
>>
>>
>>
>> On 2015-02-09 11:17 AM, Jeff McKenna wrote:
>> > Hello Board,
>> >
>> > There was some confusion at the last OSGeo Board meeting regarding what
>> > a "-0" vote does for a motion.  I tried to explain that a -0 is a slight
>> > disagreement and that the motion would proceed (only a "-1" stops the
>> > process).  It was explained to me that a "-0" stops the process, and
>> > explained to me that the MapServer project does not pass a motion with a
>> > "-0" vote.
>> >
>> > The voter in this case confirmed that the desired effect was to
>> > "slightly not agree" (see logs[1]).
>> >
>> > I have verified that the example used, the MapServer Project Steering
>> > Committee, in fact does *not* stop a motion with a "-0" vote, as
>> > explained from the PSC Guidelines[2] here:
>> >
>> >    - A vote of -0 indicates mild disagreement, but has no effect. A 0
>> > indicates no opinion. A +0 indicate mild support, but has no effect.
>> >
>> >    - Respondents may vote "-1" to veto a proposal, but must provide
>> > clear reasoning and alternate approaches to resolving the problem within
>> > the two days.
>> >
>> > Therefore, as I explained in the Board meeting, if someone does slightly
>> > disagree with a "-0", the motion will not be affected.
>> >
>> > This will apply to the results of this email vote occurring now on the
>> > mailing list.
>> >
>> > Sorry for this confusion everyone,
>> >
>> > -jeff
>> >
>> > [1] http://irclogs.geoapt.com/osgeo/%23osgeo.2015-02-05.log
>> > [2] http://mapserver.org/development/rfc/ms-rfc-23.
>> html#detailed-process
>> >
>> >
>> >
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