[Board] Application for funding QGIS Codesprint/Developers meeting - QGIS HackFest, Girona
Massimiliano Cannata
massimiliano.cannata at supsi.ch
Thu Mar 17 08:56:11 PDT 2016
Daniel,
according to [1] we have set 20'000 USD for the 2016 which at the cost of
4'000 € it means we can support less then 5 events in a year including internal
(townhall, codesprint, ) and external (e.g.. ISPRS, EGU, GWF...) events.
Likely to finish the budget... but maybe i'm wrong.
my 2 cents
[1] https://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Board_Meeting_2016-3-10#Proposed_Budget
2016-03-17 16:03 GMT+01:00 Daniel Morissette <dmorissette at mapgears.com>:
> For the record, I cannot take credit for this procedure, it was initially
> created by Michael Gerlek with contributions from others over time.
>
> Also, the problem that you fear of events being turned down because the
> allocated budget has all been used up never happened, so I would not block
> everybody for that reason until it becomes a real issue.
>
> The only blockers that have happened in the past that I am aware of is
> that some event request did not fit some of the guidelines (such as open
> budget) and that led to long discussions in some cases to decide if we fund
> them or not, or which form the funding can take. I don't think stronger
> rules will make this pain point any better.
>
> Daniel
>
>
> On 2016-03-17 10:54 AM, Massimiliano Cannata wrote:
>
>> Daniel,
>> thanks for the link and for the work you did.
>>
>> I believe it is very clear, but the point to me is that we have limited
>> resources and I don't like the idea of first came first serve and the
>> other fast.
>>
>> I think we need to set up rules for application:
>> - when can you send a request
>> - what is the allocated budget
>> - how much for each in general
>> etc...
>>
>> Something like a call where everyone is aware and can decide to apply or
>> not.
>>
>> Best,
>> maxi
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> 2016-03-17 15:44 GMT+01:00 Daniel Morissette <dmorissette at mapgears.com
>> <mailto:dmorissette at mapgears.com>>:
>>
>>
>> Just in case some of the current board members are not aware of it.
>> There was a procedure that was put in place and applied in
>> combination with a set line item in the budget for this type of event:
>>
>> https://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Code_Sprint_Guidelines
>>
>> This procedure is not perfect and can definitely be improved, but it
>> provides clear guidelines to start from. Unfortunately every event
>> comes with its own context and reasons to not fit in the mold, so
>> the problem is not the lack of a procedure, it is the large
>> diversity of initiatives in our community. If you ask me, this
>> diversity is a good thing so instead of blocking everything until we
>> have a designed good enough mold to fit everybody in it (which will
>> never happen IMHO), I would suggest that the board continue to be
>> flexible in its interpretation of the existing guidelines for each
>> request, and in parallel continuously streamline the existing
>> guidelines instead of starting from scratch again.
>>
>> My 0.02$
>>
>> Daniel
>>
>>
>> On 2016-03-17 10:29 AM, Massimiliano Cannata wrote:
>>
>> Thanks Steven for this email.
>>
>> I have asked for a regulation of funding code sprint in order to
>> make it
>> fair but it looks it didn't found any interest.
>>
>> *I motion to stop funding sprint code / ackathon /etc until a
>> proper
>> procedure is in place.*
>>
>>
>> Of course, I volunteer to give my time to participate in a task
>> force to
>> design the procedure.
>>
>>
>> Best,
>> Maxi
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> 2016-03-17 15:16 GMT+01:00 Steven Feldman <shfeldman at gmail.com
>> <mailto:shfeldman at gmail.com>
>> <mailto:shfeldman at gmail.com <mailto:shfeldman at gmail.com>>>:
>>
>> Can I suggest a pause to consider:
>>
>> 1. Is there a policy on sponsorship of events, hackfests or
>> codesprints? If not shouldn’t there be?
>> 2. What is the process for other events to seek sponsorship?
>> 3. Is there a budget amount for event sponsorship?
>> 4. Should this be determined at board level or delegated
>> to a lower
>> level?
>>
>>
>> Cheers
>> ______
>> Steven
>>
>>
>> On 17 Mar 2016, at 06:29, board-request at lists.osgeo.org
>> <mailto:board-request at lists.osgeo.org>
>> <mailto:board-request at lists.osgeo.org
>> <mailto:board-request at lists.osgeo.org>> wrote:
>>
>> *From:*Jody Garnett <jody.garnett at gmail.com
>> <mailto:jody.garnett at gmail.com>
>> <mailto:jody.garnett at gmail.com
>> <mailto:jody.garnett at gmail.com>>>
>> *Subject:**Re: [Board] Application for funding QGIS
>> Codesprint/Developers meeting - QGIS HackFest, Girona*
>> *Date:*16 March 2016 at 23:34:44 GMT
>> *To:*Lluís Vicens <lluis at sigte.udg.es
>> <mailto:lluis at sigte.udg.es>
>> <mailto:lluis at sigte.udg.es
>> <mailto:lluis at sigte.udg.es>>>, Tim Sutton <tim at kartoza.com
>> <mailto:tim at kartoza.com>
>> <mailto:tim at kartoza.com <mailto:tim at kartoza.com>>>
>> *Cc:*"board at lists.osgeo.org
>> <mailto:board at lists.osgeo.org> <mailto:board at lists.osgeo.org
>> <mailto:board at lists.osgeo.org>>"
>> <board at lists.osgeo.org <mailto:board at lists.osgeo.org>
>> <mailto:board at lists.osgeo.org <mailto:board at lists.osgeo.org
>> >>>
>>
>>
>>
>> I wish I had better email skills ... let me try that
>> again - I am
>> viewing these items as a single event sharing
>> sponsorship: QGIS
>> Hackfest, QGIS User and Developer Conference and
>> Jornadas de SIG
>> Libre. The three activities share a single website.
>>
>> * Based on the provided budget (which covers all
>> three events)
>> it appears this is correct - all three events share
>> a budget.
>> * Reading closely thesponsorship
>>
>> <http://www.sigte.udg.edu/jornadassiglibre/en/patrocinadores/
>> >is
>> only advertised to cover the Jornadas de SIG Libre
>> and QGIS
>> User and Developer conference.
>>
>> Updating my email:
>>
>> I would like to make a motion to cover an expected
>> gap in
>> sponsorship for the event (QGIS Hackfest, QGIS User
>> and
>> Developer Conference and Jornadas de SIG Libre).
>> The amount is
>> subject to sponsor generosity, currently budgeted
>> as a 4000
>> EUR shortfall.
>>
>>
>> This is specifically so that organizers and university
>> do not feel
>> financially exposed in this community outreach,
>> community building
>> and development activity.
>>
>> I note my suggested motion is a little bit at odds with
>> the
>> original request - which specified that any additional
>> funds be
>> provided to/"cover full expenses from the Monestir de
>> Sant Daniel
>> in order to contribute to the QGIS project"./We may
>> wish to ask
>> for clarifiation on this expectation.
>>
>> I understand that this motion steps out of bounds from
>> specifically a code-sprint request, I feel the response
>> is
>> warranted given we are looking at larger event.
>> --
>> Jody Garnett
>>
>> On 15 March 2016 at 09:27, Jody
>> Garnett<jody.garnett at gmail.com <mailto:jody.garnett at gmail.com
>> >
>> <mailto:jody.garnett at gmail.com
>> <mailto:jody.garnett at gmail.com>>>wrote:
>>
>> Dear board members, based on this conversation I
>> would like to
>> make a motion to underwrite the QGIS hackfest. It
>> sounds like
>> the event is missing some sponsorship so this will
>> be more of
>> a risk then usual.
>>
>> (Indeed because it is at risk, and a valuable
>> event, is the
>> reason I am prepared to make a motion).
>>
>> Please take a moment to review the submitted
>> request, that way
>> we can save discussion during voting.
>> --
>> Jody
>>
>>
>>
>>
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