[Board] Dear President [?????]

Fri Nov 3 07:54:04 PDT 2017

You are of course correct Vasile; I apologize for getting off topic it was
inappropriate.

On Thu, Nov 2, 2017 at 4:04 PM Vasile Craciunescu <vasile at geo-spatial.org>
wrote:

> Dear colleagues of OSGeo board of directors,
>
> As I already mention in on one of my last CRO messages, in our public
> communication, logic, facts and careful planing should prevail over our
> emotions. Of course, the way we are feeling about open source geospatial
> is the driving force of our involvement in OSGeo's board. However, our
> public message/image should be a professional one. I don't suggest a
> corporate attitude, I would like to just make everyone aware that our
> entirely "world" is looking and us, expecting a balanced and
> inspirational attitude. We should be careful to be open and inclusive
> enough not to offend any flavor of our community members (of course,
> those members that are also embrace our values). Somehow, we are not
> there, even if it's in our mandate to behave this way. Everyone from the
> community already knows that we accepted the director role because we
> truly believe in FOSS values and our work and vision was awarded by
> being voted in this position. We don't have to to repeat indefinitely
> how great we and our ideas/values are (as individuals or as a
> community). By doing so we will only dilute our message. We already know
> that we are doing the right thing and we should have an well-balanced
> message and attitude in order to convince others to join. Also, please
> let's focus more on getting back the trust back in our community by
> acting in a coherent and professional way (simple words are not enough).
> By doing so we will also close the gaps that are currently dividing our
> community.
>
> Best,
> Vasile
>
> PS. This is not necessarily a response to the current thread. I know
> that everyone involved acted in total good will. My original intention
> was to send this message through board-priv mailing list. Anyway, I
> decided to send this through the public board list as is something not
> really related to the current situation/board.
>
>
> On 11/2/17 10:50 PM, Jeff McKenna wrote:
> > Hi Barend,
> >
> > I take the blame here, it was an idea I had, shared without background
> > research and explanation.  Many are pointing out that I was very wrong.
> > I am sorry.  I am trying to propose a way forward for the leadership of
> > the foundation, openly.  Others are right, the Board will need to decide.
> >
> > But my words do have meaning, for me, to both Helena and Venka, who I
> > have the utmost respect for, as leaders.  I believe they can help bring
> > the leadership needed for the OSGeo community.
> >
> > -jeff
> >
> >
> >
> > On 2017-11-02 5:25 PM, b.j.kobben at utwente.nl wrote:
> >> Can someone PLEASE explain these messages? It's hard enough to follow
> >> what goes on as a charter member, but if even following all messages
> >> on <board> and <discuss> leaves us with apparent huge gaps in what
> >> goes on, it becomes impossible...
> >>
> >> I understood that Venka was not re-elected, so how can he be asked to
> >> be President (together with Helena or not)....?
> >>
> >> yours, utterly confused,
> >> --
> >> Barend Köbben
> >>
> >> On 02/11/2017, 20:21, "Board on behalf of Jody Garnett"
> >> <board-bounces at lists.osgeo.org on behalf of jody.garnett at gmail.com>
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >>      I understand Jeff, I have a slight different vision for the board
> >> - focused on enabling our participants and committees, rather than
> >> asking the board to assume so much activity.
> >>      This is why we have a diverse board, discussion, and reach a
> >> direction together.
> >>      --
> >>      Jody Garnett
> >>      On 2 November 2017 at 12:17, Jeff McKenna
> >>      <jmckenna at gatewaygeomatics.com> wrote:
> >>      Hi all,
> >>      This is a message asking Venka to attend the next meeting, and an
> >> idea I have to have both Helena and Venka lead OSGeo.  It is me being
> >> kind and respectful, speaking from the heart.  This is not an attack
> >> against anyone.  We can of course all decide what is
> >>       best as a Board at the next meeting.  This was meant as a nice
> >> kind message to propose a way forward for the foundation.  There have
> >> been lots of messages against me, so many negative messages out there
> >> archived, I am just trying to share what I have been
> >>       thinking and being very positive.  I think it's ok to talk about
> >> the leadership of the foundation openly and in a positive way.  And
> >> what a better way than to have an executive board of 4, share the
> >> workload (2 presidents and 2 VPs).  I of course have much
> >>       experience in this, and I feel that this idea would be very
> >> helpful, the sharing of the work.  I was just being respectful to
> >> Venka, his leadership, and all of the great work that Helena has done
> >> behind the scenes, and putting an idea out there to help lead
> >>       the foundation.  I think this is a nice way forward for the
> >> foundation, I have no other motive.  I am sorry if this message was
> >> misinterpreted.  -jeff
> >>      On 2017-11-02 3:05 PM, Jeff McKenna wrote:
> >>      Dear Venka-sensei,
> >>      Today during the OSGeo Board meeting, Angelos and I vocally
> >> proposed you remain as the OSGeo President (to be honest, I proposed a
> >> dual presidency of both you and Helena).  I think this is a magical
> team.
> >>      I formally request that you attend the next OSGeo Board meeting,
> >> as the OSGeo President (even if you cannot attend, you will still be
> >> the OSGeo President). But I think attending can help.
> >>      I would very much like to see OSGeo's first dual presidency of
> >> Helena and you in place.  (let's leave the bylaws aside for a second,
> >> and this is me proposing this to you)
> >>      Thank you Venka for your leadership.  (I had suggested this to
> >> Helena during the meeting)  Thank you also Helena for your continued
> >> great leadership.  You both have my utmost respect.  I thought about
> >> this all of last night.
> >>      With all my love, passion, life, energy, heart, career, ability
> >> to earn a living, willingness to help others through even the worst
> >> attacks and criticisms, willingness to take one for the team,
> >> willingness to fall down even in front of thousands, willing to
> >>       just try, I am forever yours OSGeo,
> >>      -Jeff McKenna
> >>      Family.
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> --
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