[Board] Dear President [?????]

Fri Nov 3 08:10:36 PDT 2017

I understand, I sent an inappropriate response yesterday (no need to
repeat) - I appreciate the reminder to stay focused on being a team player.
On Fri, Nov 3, 2017 at 8:04 AM Vasile Craciunescu <
vasile.craciunescu at gmail.com> wrote:

> Hey Jody,
>
> It was not about your private message to the board. That was totally fine.
> I was refering only to our public messages.
>
> Best,
> Vasile
>
> Sent from my mobile device
>
> On 3 Nov 2017, at 16:54, Jody Garnett <jody.garnett at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> You are of course correct Vasile; I apologize for getting off topic it was
> inappropriate.
>
> On Thu, Nov 2, 2017 at 4:04 PM Vasile Craciunescu <vasile at geo-spatial.org>
> wrote:
>
>> Dear colleagues of OSGeo board of directors,
>>
>> As I already mention in on one of my last CRO messages, in our public
>> communication, logic, facts and careful planing should prevail over our
>> emotions. Of course, the way we are feeling about open source geospatial
>> is the driving force of our involvement in OSGeo's board. However, our
>> public message/image should be a professional one. I don't suggest a
>> corporate attitude, I would like to just make everyone aware that our
>> entirely "world" is looking and us, expecting a balanced and
>> inspirational attitude. We should be careful to be open and inclusive
>> enough not to offend any flavor of our community members (of course,
>> those members that are also embrace our values). Somehow, we are not
>> there, even if it's in our mandate to behave this way. Everyone from the
>> community already knows that we accepted the director role because we
>> truly believe in FOSS values and our work and vision was awarded by
>> being voted in this position. We don't have to to repeat indefinitely
>> how great we and our ideas/values are (as individuals or as a
>> community). By doing so we will only dilute our message. We already know
>> that we are doing the right thing and we should have an well-balanced
>> message and attitude in order to convince others to join. Also, please
>> let's focus more on getting back the trust back in our community by
>> acting in a coherent and professional way (simple words are not enough).
>> By doing so we will also close the gaps that are currently dividing our
>> community.
>>
>> Best,
>> Vasile
>>
>> PS. This is not necessarily a response to the current thread. I know
>> that everyone involved acted in total good will. My original intention
>> was to send this message through board-priv mailing list. Anyway, I
>> decided to send this through the public board list as is something not
>> really related to the current situation/board.
>>
>>
>> On 11/2/17 10:50 PM, Jeff McKenna wrote:
>> > Hi Barend,
>> >
>> > I take the blame here, it was an idea I had, shared without background
>> > research and explanation.  Many are pointing out that I was very wrong.
>> > I am sorry.  I am trying to propose a way forward for the leadership of
>> > the foundation, openly.  Others are right, the Board will need to
>> decide.
>> >
>> > But my words do have meaning, for me, to both Helena and Venka, who I
>> > have the utmost respect for, as leaders.  I believe they can help bring
>> > the leadership needed for the OSGeo community.
>> >
>> > -jeff
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > On 2017-11-02 5:25 PM, b.j.kobben at utwente.nl wrote:
>> >> Can someone PLEASE explain these messages? It's hard enough to follow
>> >> what goes on as a charter member, but if even following all messages
>> >> on <board> and <discuss> leaves us with apparent huge gaps in what
>> >> goes on, it becomes impossible...
>> >>
>> >> I understood that Venka was not re-elected, so how can he be asked to
>> >> be President (together with Helena or not)....?
>> >>
>> >> yours, utterly confused,
>> >> --
>> >> Barend Köbben
>> >>
>> >> On 02/11/2017, 20:21, "Board on behalf of Jody Garnett"
>> >> <board-bounces at lists.osgeo.org on behalf of jody.garnett at gmail.com>
>> >> wrote:
>> >>
>> >>      I understand Jeff, I have a slight different vision for the board
>> >> - focused on enabling our participants and committees, rather than
>> >> asking the board to assume so much activity.
>> >>      This is why we have a diverse board, discussion, and reach a
>> >> direction together.
>> >>      --
>> >>      Jody Garnett
>> >>      On 2 November 2017 at 12:17, Jeff McKenna
>> >>      <jmckenna at gatewaygeomatics.com> wrote:
>> >>      Hi all,
>> >>      This is a message asking Venka to attend the next meeting, and an
>> >> idea I have to have both Helena and Venka lead OSGeo.  It is me being
>> >> kind and respectful, speaking from the heart.  This is not an attack
>> >> against anyone.  We can of course all decide what is
>> >>       best as a Board at the next meeting.  This was meant as a nice
>> >> kind message to propose a way forward for the foundation.  There have
>> >> been lots of messages against me, so many negative messages out there
>> >> archived, I am just trying to share what I have been
>> >>       thinking and being very positive.  I think it's ok to talk about
>> >> the leadership of the foundation openly and in a positive way.  And
>> >> what a better way than to have an executive board of 4, share the
>> >> workload (2 presidents and 2 VPs).  I of course have much
>> >>       experience in this, and I feel that this idea would be very
>> >> helpful, the sharing of the work.  I was just being respectful to
>> >> Venka, his leadership, and all of the great work that Helena has done
>> >> behind the scenes, and putting an idea out there to help lead
>> >>       the foundation.  I think this is a nice way forward for the
>> >> foundation, I have no other motive.  I am sorry if this message was
>> >> misinterpreted.  -jeff
>> >>      On 2017-11-02 3:05 PM, Jeff McKenna wrote:
>> >>      Dear Venka-sensei,
>> >>      Today during the OSGeo Board meeting, Angelos and I vocally
>> >> proposed you remain as the OSGeo President (to be honest, I proposed a
>> >> dual presidency of both you and Helena).  I think this is a magical
>> team.
>> >>      I formally request that you attend the next OSGeo Board meeting,
>> >> as the OSGeo President (even if you cannot attend, you will still be
>> >> the OSGeo President). But I think attending can help.
>> >>      I would very much like to see OSGeo's first dual presidency of
>> >> Helena and you in place.  (let's leave the bylaws aside for a second,
>> >> and this is me proposing this to you)
>> >>      Thank you Venka for your leadership.  (I had suggested this to
>> >> Helena during the meeting)  Thank you also Helena for your continued
>> >> great leadership.  You both have my utmost respect.  I thought about
>> >> this all of last night.
>> >>      With all my love, passion, life, energy, heart, career, ability
>> >> to earn a living, willingness to help others through even the worst
>> >> attacks and criticisms, willingness to take one for the team,
>> >> willingness to fall down even in front of thousands, willing to
>> >>       just try, I am forever yours OSGeo,
>> >>      -Jeff McKenna
>> >>      Family.
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>> --
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> Jody Garnett
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