[Board] board operation question from the incubation list

[Jody Garnett]

Agreed, that is indeed how it works. The +0 abstain allows us to get a 100%
response rate (needed to pass electronic voting) and we still have a
majority in favour so the motion was passed (needed for robert's rules of
order).

I figure our directors are nominated in part for their community
participation so we can expect that they will have several
responsibilities. And then trust their integrity when voting as a director
(both to acknowledge any conflicting responsibilities and act in keeping
with their office.)

--
Jody Garnett

On 5 November 2017 at 23:21, María Arias de Reyna <delawen at gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi,
>
> In my opinion, even if we don't count the votes of the members in
> conflict, we have a majority of the board agreeing on this motion. So I
> think it makes sense to approve it.
>
> The alternative would be to freeze the incubation of a project until no
> member of the board has conflicts. Considering that the incubation is just
> the start of a longer process which may or may not succeed, I think it is
> healthier to accept the incubation and make sure the conflict of interests
> are solved by the end of the process (the sooner, the better).
>
> Regards,
> María.
>
>
> On Mon, Nov 6, 2017 at 5:45 AM, Jody Garnett <jody.garnett at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> The following questions on board operation is from Vicky on the
>> incubation list:
>>
>> Hello all
>>
>> *As member of the PSC of OSGeo-Live, I am glad to read that the motion of
>> considering OSGeo-Live for incubation has passed.*
>>
>> *I am concerned because the the incubator committee has a member that has
>> a conflict of interest because is also a member of the PSC of OSGeo-Live
>> project, and he voted +1.*
>> *I expressed my concern in the "Juez y Parte" thread of [1], where is
>> "clear" that there is no guideline of the action to be taken on a committee
>> member when there is a conflict of interest. (the thread has a link to the
>> incubator committee guidelines [2])*
>> *I must say that, at least, the committee member with the conflict of
>> interest, mentioned his involvement when voting, but he didn't step down
>> from the committee, or voted in such a way that his vote would not
>> influence the over all result like a (+0)*
>>
>> *So, The next step is for the board for approval.*
>> *And my concern grows thinking on how the board with two board members
>> also on the PSC of OSGeo-Live, so more conflict of interest.*
>>
>> *I was doubtful of which was the correct mailing list to make this post.
>> (Here or Discuss) but having Jody as part of Board, I leave the decision to
>> him if this new concern of mine "Juez y Parte" but for board making
>> decision on projects they belong to.*
>>
>> *I want things made done right. Our project application, as far as I can
>> see, can  be used to make more precise written rules/policies about
>> conflicts of interest.*
>> *But what I would not want is someone else in the future, to notice and
>> make a big fuss/attack of "how bad X person acted when having a conflict of
>> interest".*
>>
>> *I wonder if there is a guideline equivalent to the incubator committee
>> guideline but for board.*
>>
>> *Regards*
>> *Vicky*
>>
>>
>> And the following answer from myself:
>>
>> *Thanks Vicky, motion is not quite passed yet (waiting on 100% response
>> for the electronic voting).*
>>
>> *I note that the board-priv at osgeo.org <board-priv at osgeo.org> list is
>> available if you have any questions you would like to raise privately.*
>>
>> *You can see a couple of approaches in play here:*
>> *- Earlier on the incubation thread I asked the incubation committee to
>> consider my early involvement with OSGeo live and if it would be a
>> hindrance to acting as mentor.*
>> *- During MOT1 voting I responded with +1, noting my role as incubation
>> chair*
>> *- During MOT1 voting you can see Angelos abstain with a +0 vote, noting
>> his role as PSC chair*
>>
>> *The board has addressed these kind of tensions previously, asking
>> directors to acknowledge if they are affected by the matter at hand - but
>> still vote in a responsible fashion as a director of OSGeo. This issue
>> comes up a lot for directors, because they are part of OSGeo and are
>> affected by most decisions.*
>>
>> *With your permission I would like to pass your question and the above
>> answer to the board email list. I try not to cross post since that leads to
>> madness.*
>>
>>
>> Checking the wiki we do have a policy - https://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/
>> Conflict_Of_Interest_Policy
>> --
>> Jody Garnett
>>
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