[Foss4g2012] RE: [Board] RE: [OSGeo-Conf] FOSS4G Beijing - a regional event

Fri May 25 14:50:02 PDT 2012

I like, but I would like a statement on what we intend to do about the AGM
etc if it's not going to be in Beijing

Jo
 On 25 May 2012 21:31, "Cameron Shorter" <cameron.shorter at gmail.com> wrote:

>  Here is a proposed draft email, probably to be sent by Arnulf on behalf
> on the board. Feel free to reword as you see fit:
>
> Title: FOSS4G 2012 in Beijing - categorised as a Regional FOSS4G
>
> Body:
>
> In the interests of transparency, the OSGeo board are noting that FOSS4G
> 2012 in Beijing is being considered by the OSGeo Board as a "Regional
> FOSS4G Event", rather than as the "International FOSS4G event". This means
> that the OSGeo Annual General Meeting, and Sol Katz award will not be
> included as part of the program, and possibly means that there will be less
> international presence than at the FOSS4G International event.
>
> That said, we do anticipate that FOSS4G Beijing will be a successful
> regional event, drawing heavily upon the local region for attendance.
>
> The growth and maturity of OSGeo software and following interest from
> business, educational and government has been fanning a rising demand for
> the FOSS4G conference. This demand has led initially to the development of
> an international conference - first titled FOSS4G in 2006 in Switzerland.
> By 2009 it was becoming apparent that FOSS4G attracted a very high local
> attendance who made up over half the audience. These local attendees
> usually were obviously interested in FOSS4G, but were not attending the
> international event. By 2011/2012 many successful regional FOSS4G events
> have been running, which have been capitalising on the previously untapped
> local interest.
>
> As such, we anticipate that FOSS4G Beijing will similarly be successful in
> capturing the regional interest in FOSS4G and will stage a compelling
> regional FOSS4G event. We do encourage all who are interested to attend.
>
>
>
>
>
> On 26/05/2012 5:44 AM, Michael P. Gerlek wrote:
>
>  OK, I’ll make an official motion.****
>
> ** **
>
> PROPOSED:   There will be no annual, international FOSS4G event this year.
> There will be a regional OSGeo conference in Beijing in September 2012, but
> it will not include an Annual General Meeting nor will the Sol Katz award
> be announced there.****
>
> ** **
>
> My motion does not lay blame, point fingers, or attempt a rationale; it
> simply states the facts as they are.****
>
> ** **
>
> -mpg****
>
> ** **
>
> *From:* conference_dev-bounces at lists.osgeo.org [
> mailto:conference_dev-bounces at lists.osgeo.org<conference_dev-bounces at lists.osgeo.org>]
> *On Behalf Of *seven at arnulf.us
> *Sent:* Friday, May 25, 2012 12:28 PM
> *To:* 'conference'; OSGeo Board
> *Cc:* 'FOSS4G 2012'
> *Subject:* Re: [Board] RE: [OSGeo-Conf] FOSS4G Beijing - a regional event*
> ***
>
> ** **
>
> Hi,
> there is no motion on the floor. My intention is simply to follow up on a
> standing request by many people who keep asking about the event in Beijing.
> In the absence of a functioning conference committee I believe it is the
> board's job to answer.
>
> I have no intention of discouraging anybody going there but it is not
> going to be comparable to previous global events. Whoever has the
> capacities to make it so please step up. Now. We need an AGM, international
> keynoters, some board representation, Sol Katz Award event and other stuff
> I currently cannot see and am not expecting anymore.
>
> Where is the problem in being honest about this? I can already see the
> frustration of people and corresponding media reports after the fact saying
> that we have 'failed'. No need for this.
>
> If someone else sees the need for an official note please take over, it is
> not that important to me.
>
> Best regards,
> Arnulf
>
> --
> Arnulf Christl (aka Seven)
> http://arnulf.us
>
> ----- Reply message -----
> From: "Michael P. Gerlek" <mpg at flaxen.com>
> To: "'Tim Schaub'" <tschaub at opengeo.org>
> Cc: "'conference'" <conference_dev at lists.osgeo.org>, "'FOSS4G 2012'" <
> foss4g2012 at lists.osgeo.org>, <board at lists.osgeo.org>
> Subject: [Board] RE: [OSGeo-Conf] FOSS4G Beijing - a regional event
> Date: Fri, May 25, 2012 20:20
>
>
> We need to set people's expectations that this is not the usual annual
> global event at which there will be large number of international
> attendees, the Sol Katz Award, the annual general meeting, etc.
>
> -mpg
>
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Tim Schaub [mailto:tschaub at opengeo.org]
> > Sent: Friday, May 25, 2012 11:19 AM
> > To: mpg at flaxen.com
> > Cc: conference; FOSS4G 2012; board at lists.osgeo.org
> > Subject: Re: [Board] RE: [OSGeo-Conf] FOSS4G Beijing - a regional event
> >
> > What would be the desired outcome of any motion we could make?  Do you
> > want to encourage people not to attend?  I doubt that.  Is this just
> > about conveying disappointment?
> >
> > On Fri, May 25, 2012 at 9:13 AM, Michael P. Gerlek <mpg at flaxen.com>
> wrote:
> > >> This makes FOSS4G in Beijing a regional event at best
> > >> and I believe we must make clear that this is not going to be ''the''
> > >> global meeting of the tribes.
> > >
> > > Agreed, I've been saying as much for a while now. I think the board
> needs to formally make that announcement asap -- perhaps a
> > motion is in order?
> > >
> > > -mpg
> > >
> > >
> > >> -----Original Message-----
> > >> From: conference_dev-bounces at lists.osgeo.org
> [mailto:conference_dev-bounces at lists.osgeo.org] On Behalf Of Seven (aka
> > Arnulf)
> > >> Sent: Thursday, May 24, 2012 9:06 AM
> > >> To: conference; FOSS4G 2012
> > >> Subject: [OSGeo-Conf] FOSS4G Beijing - a regional event
> > >>
> > >> Folks,
> > >> on the website at http://2012.foss4g.org/ there is still no option
> for
> > >> submitting abstracts although the submission has been opened -
> > >> apparently without notice to any of the regular OSGeo channels.
> > >> Workshops submission ends in two weeks.
> > >>
> > >> No international speakers have been announced and there are only
> Chinese
> > >> sponsors listed (although interest by regulars was documented as early
> > >> as December 2012). This makes FOSS4G in Beijing a regional event at
> best
> > >> and I believe we must make clear that this is not going to be ''the''
> > >> global meeting of the tribes.
> > >>
> > >> We should at the same time continue to support FOSS4G in Beijing as a
> > >> regional event and help them wherever they let us.
> > >>
> > >> On http://2012.foss4g.org/ the link to the OSGeo Wiki page in the
> lower
> > >> right should be removed as it is not being used (and currently points
> to
> > >> a 404).
> > >>
> > >> Best regards,
> > >> Arnulf
> > >>
> > >> --
> > >> Exploring Space, Time and Mind
> > >> http://arnulf.us
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