[Foss4g2012] RE: [Board] RE: [OSGeo-Conf] FOSS4G Beijing - a
regional event
Cameron Shorter
cameron.shorter at gmail.com
Fri May 25 14:55:00 PDT 2012
Has the board decided what is happening with the AGM and Sol Katz award?
On 26/05/2012 7:50 AM, Jo Cook wrote:
>
> I like, but I would like a statement on what we intend to do about the
> AGM etc if it's not going to be in Beijing
>
> Jo
>
> On 25 May 2012 21:31, "Cameron Shorter" <cameron.shorter at gmail.com
> <mailto:cameron.shorter at gmail.com>> wrote:
>
> Here is a proposed draft email, probably to be sent by Arnulf on
> behalf on the board. Feel free to reword as you see fit:
>
> Title: FOSS4G 2012 in Beijing - categorised as a Regional FOSS4G
>
> Body:
>
> In the interests of transparency, the OSGeo board are noting that
> FOSS4G 2012 in Beijing is being considered by the OSGeo Board as a
> "Regional FOSS4G Event", rather than as the "International FOSS4G
> event". This means that the OSGeo Annual General Meeting, and Sol
> Katz award will not be included as part of the program, and
> possibly means that there will be less international presence than
> at the FOSS4G International event.
>
> That said, we do anticipate that FOSS4G Beijing will be a
> successful regional event, drawing heavily upon the local region
> for attendance.
>
> The growth and maturity of OSGeo software and following interest
> from business, educational and government has been fanning a
> rising demand for the FOSS4G conference. This demand has led
> initially to the development of an international conference -
> first titled FOSS4G in 2006 in Switzerland. By 2009 it was
> becoming apparent that FOSS4G attracted a very high local
> attendance who made up over half the audience. These local
> attendees usually were obviously interested in FOSS4G, but were
> not attending the international event. By 2011/2012 many
> successful regional FOSS4G events have been running, which have
> been capitalising on the previously untapped local interest.
>
> As such, we anticipate that FOSS4G Beijing will similarly be
> successful in capturing the regional interest in FOSS4G and will
> stage a compelling regional FOSS4G event. We do encourage all who
> are interested to attend.
>
>
>
>
>
> On 26/05/2012 5:44 AM, Michael P. Gerlek wrote:
>>
>> OK, I’ll make an official motion.
>>
>> PROPOSED: There will be no annual, international FOSS4G event
>> this year. There will be a regional OSGeo conference in Beijing
>> in September 2012, but it will not include an Annual General
>> Meeting nor will the Sol Katz award be announced there.
>>
>> My motion does not lay blame, point fingers, or attempt a
>> rationale; it simply states the facts as they are.
>>
>> -mpg
>>
>> *From:*conference_dev-bounces at lists.osgeo.org
>> <mailto:conference_dev-bounces at lists.osgeo.org>
>> [mailto:conference_dev-bounces at lists.osgeo.org] *On Behalf Of
>> *seven at arnulf.us <mailto:seven at arnulf.us>
>> *Sent:* Friday, May 25, 2012 12:28 PM
>> *To:* 'conference'; OSGeo Board
>> *Cc:* 'FOSS4G 2012'
>> *Subject:* Re: [Board] RE: [OSGeo-Conf] FOSS4G Beijing - a
>> regional event
>>
>> Hi,
>> there is no motion on the floor. My intention is simply to follow
>> up on a standing request by many people who keep asking about the
>> event in Beijing. In the absence of a functioning conference
>> committee I believe it is the board's job to answer.
>>
>> I have no intention of discouraging anybody going there but it is
>> not going to be comparable to previous global events. Whoever has
>> the capacities to make it so please step up. Now. We need an AGM,
>> international keynoters, some board representation, Sol Katz
>> Award event and other stuff I currently cannot see and am not
>> expecting anymore.
>>
>> Where is the problem in being honest about this? I can already
>> see the frustration of people and corresponding media reports
>> after the fact saying that we have 'failed'. No need for this.
>>
>> If someone else sees the need for an official note please take
>> over, it is not that important to me.
>>
>> Best regards,
>> Arnulf
>>
>> --
>> Arnulf Christl (aka Seven)
>> http://arnulf.us
>>
>> ----- Reply message -----
>> From: "Michael P. Gerlek" <mpg at flaxen.com <mailto:mpg at flaxen.com>>
>> To: "'Tim Schaub'" <tschaub at opengeo.org <mailto:tschaub at opengeo.org>>
>> Cc: "'conference'" <conference_dev at lists.osgeo.org
>> <mailto:conference_dev at lists.osgeo.org>>, "'FOSS4G 2012'"
>> <foss4g2012 at lists.osgeo.org <mailto:foss4g2012 at lists.osgeo.org>>,
>> <board at lists.osgeo.org <mailto:board at lists.osgeo.org>>
>> Subject: [Board] RE: [OSGeo-Conf] FOSS4G Beijing - a regional event
>> Date: Fri, May 25, 2012 20:20
>>
>>
>> We need to set people's expectations that this is not the usual
>> annual global event at which there will be large number of
>> international attendees, the Sol Katz Award, the annual general
>> meeting, etc.
>>
>> -mpg
>>
>>
>> > -----Original Message-----
>> > From: Tim Schaub [mailto:tschaub at opengeo.org]
>> <mailto:[mailto:tschaub at opengeo.org]>
>> > Sent: Friday, May 25, 2012 11:19 AM
>> > To: mpg at flaxen.com <mailto:mpg at flaxen.com>
>> > Cc: conference; FOSS4G 2012; board at lists.osgeo.org
>> <mailto:board at lists.osgeo.org>
>> > Subject: Re: [Board] RE: [OSGeo-Conf] FOSS4G Beijing - a
>> regional event
>> >
>> > What would be the desired outcome of any motion we could make?
>> Do you
>> > want to encourage people not to attend? I doubt that. Is this
>> just
>> > about conveying disappointment?
>> >
>> > On Fri, May 25, 2012 at 9:13 AM, Michael P. Gerlek
>> <mpg at flaxen.com <mailto:mpg at flaxen.com>> wrote:
>> > >> This makes FOSS4G in Beijing a regional event at best
>> > >> and I believe we must make clear that this is not going to
>> be ''the''
>> > >> global meeting of the tribes.
>> > >
>> > > Agreed, I've been saying as much for a while now. I think the
>> board needs to formally make that announcement asap -- perhaps a
>> > motion is in order?
>> > >
>> > > -mpg
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >> -----Original Message-----
>> > >> From: conference_dev-bounces at lists.osgeo.org
>> <mailto:conference_dev-bounces at lists.osgeo.org>
>> [mailto:conference_dev-bounces at lists.osgeo.org]
>> <mailto:[mailto:conference_dev-bounces at lists.osgeo.org]> On
>> Behalf Of Seven (aka
>> > Arnulf)
>> > >> Sent: Thursday, May 24, 2012 9:06 AM
>> > >> To: conference; FOSS4G 2012
>> > >> Subject: [OSGeo-Conf] FOSS4G Beijing - a regional event
>> > >>
>> > >> Folks,
>> > >> on the website at http://2012.foss4g.org/ there is still no
>> option for
>> > >> submitting abstracts although the submission has been opened -
>> > >> apparently without notice to any of the regular OSGeo channels.
>> > >> Workshops submission ends in two weeks.
>> > >>
>> > >> No international speakers have been announced and there are
>> only Chinese
>> > >> sponsors listed (although interest by regulars was
>> documented as early
>> > >> as December 2012). This makes FOSS4G in Beijing a regional
>> event at best
>> > >> and I believe we must make clear that this is not going to
>> be ''the''
>> > >> global meeting of the tribes.
>> > >>
>> > >> We should at the same time continue to support FOSS4G in
>> Beijing as a
>> > >> regional event and help them wherever they let us.
>> > >>
>> > >> On http://2012.foss4g.org/ the link to the OSGeo Wiki page
>> in the lower
>> > >> right should be removed as it is not being used (and
>> currently points to
>> > >> a 404).
>> > >>
>> > >> Best regards,
>> > >> Arnulf
>> > >>
>> > >> --
>> > >> Exploring Space, Time and Mind
>> > >> http://arnulf.us
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>> > --
>> > Tim Schaub
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