[OSGeo-Conf] Looking for the keeper of the videos from FOSS4GNA- PDX (2014)
Andrew Ross
andrew.ross at eclipse.org
Sat Sep 19 14:54:20 PDT 2015
Dear David, Everyone
I believe the point you make is valid. And it also applies to any
artifacts including code, bugs, downloads, etc.
Anything service (free or paid) might change their policies or
disappear. Codehaus & Google code have shut down. SourceForge has been
doing really questionable things. For video Blip.tv & Justin.tv changed
their policies. You could even apply the argument to social media such
as Facebook, Twitter, Linkedin, Skype, Google Hangout, etc.
However, the simple fact is it would be a very poor waste to invest
precious community effort re-inventing and maintaining YouTube, Github,
JIRA, Twitter, and whatever else so long as free high
quality/availability services are available.
In my opinion, use them. Our use of them gives tremendous benefits and
is subsidized by the business models of those offering them (often
selling ads). It would be very difficult for us to tap into those funds
to do the same.
Specifically in terms of video, my opinion is YouTube is by far the best
place for them today.
A
On 20/09/15 02:37, David Percy wrote:
>
> It seems like we should have a permanent archive on our own servers,
> in addition to a public consumption interface like one of the services
> we have been discussing.
> This starts to get into a long term digital stewardship issue. We need
> to perhaps have a longer view... With content tags and stuff. But not
> so difficult that it becomes a task that is hard to manage, and
> therefore never gets done. Maybe a simple CMS... Aren't we using
> drupal already?
>
> Unless we think these talks are more ephemeral due to the rapidly
> changing technology.
>
> In which case we can leave the issue in the more ad hoc status that it
> is, and just let each LOC deal with it.
> Just a thought,
> Percy
>
>
> On Sat, Sep 19, 2015 at 7:21 AM, Steven Feldman <shfeldman at gmail.com
> <mailto:shfeldman at gmail.com>> wrote:
>
> I don’t see $200/year of value in Vimeo. Surely we want our
> content to have the widest possible real, won’t that come through
> YouTube?
> ______
> Steven
>
>
>> On 19 Sep 2015, at 03:10, Andrew Ross <andrew.ross at eclipse.org
>> <mailto:andrew.ross at eclipse.org>> wrote:
>>
>> Bob,
>>
>> They are creative commons licensed and downloading is trivial.
>> Just landed returning from Seoul so I'll post how to do so tomorrow.
>>
>> Kind regards,
>>
>> A
>>
>> On September 18, 2015 5:43:49 PM EDT, "Basques, Bob (CI-StPaul)"
>> <bob.basques at ci.stpaul.mn.us
>> <mailto:bob.basques at ci.stpaul.mn.us>> wrote:
>>
>> Andrew,
>>
>> I have a problem with the YouTube License. Once it’s up
>> there, they get to use it however they want, forever.
>>
>> Also, I (still) don’t see a method for downloading anything
>> for saving as a local copy from YouTube (at least not legally).
>>
>> Vimeo let’s you download/copy, and even pick who sees your
>> content., etc. I’ll be the first to admit though, that not
>> everyone will care about this, until they do, and then it
>> will be too late.
>>
>> bobb
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>> On Sep 18, 2015, at 2:52 PM, Andrew Ross
>>> <andrew.ross at eclipse.org <mailto:andrew.ross at eclipse.org>>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> YouTube has a much bigger community, is free, and the
>>> search/indexing can't be beat.
>>>
>>> I like Vimeo, have used it a fair amount, but this is no
>>> contest.. YouTube wins imho.
>>>
>>> A
>>>
>>> On September 18, 2015 11:06:30 AM PDT, Steven Feldman
>>> <shfeldman at gmail.com <mailto:shfeldman at gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Is Vimeo preferred to YouTube? Why?
>>>
>>> Andrew Ross post 90+ 2013 videos on YouTube at zero cost
>>>
>>> Regards
>>> Steven
>>>
>>>
>>> +44 (0) 7958 924101 <tel:%2B44%20%280%29%207958%20924101>
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>
>>> On 18 Sep 2015, at 18:57, Darrell Fuhriman
>>> <darrell at garnix.org <mailto:darrell at garnix.org>>
>>> wrote: Aww crap. Our vimeo pro account expired, and
>>> apparently that took some of the videos offline. I
>>> didn’t think that was going to happen — I guess I
>>> mis-read the consequences. FWIW, I think OSGeo
>>> should keep this account up and consolidate all the
>>> foss4g videos there (including the forthcoming
>>> 2015). Board: is this a service that OSGeo is
>>> willing to pay for? It’s $200/year. Darrell
>>>
>>> On Sep 18, 2015, at 10:11, Basques, Bob
>>> (CI-StPaul) <bob.basques at ci.stpaul.mn.us
>>> <mailto:bob.basques at ci.stpaul.mn.us>> wrote:
>>> Edit . . . Oops, I mean just FOSS4G. Looks like
>>> a few of the videos that were on Vimeo have gone
>>> missing, besides mine. At least based on the
>>> links from here: Maybe something has changed on
>>> Vimeo??
>>> http://2014.foss4g.org/schedule/sessions/index.html
>>> bobb
>>>
>>> On Sep 18, 2015, at 11:47 AM, Basques, Bob
>>> (CI-StPaul) <bob.basques at ci.stpaul.mn.us
>>> <mailto:bob.basques at ci.stpaul.mn.us>> wrote:
>>> All, I’m looking for the Keeper of the
>>> conference videos from FOSS4GNA PDX (2014) I
>>> see a lot of them on Vimeo, but the one I
>>> did seems to be missing. It used to be
>>> there. Unless I’m using a bad search filter
>>> . . . Thanks bobb
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