[OSGeo-Conf] [Board] Motion to create a youtube account FOSS4G

Astrid Emde (OSGeo) astrid_emde at osgeo.org
Mon Jun 24 10:06:34 PDT 2019 

Hello,

I collected (hopefully) all the information from the thread to the 
ticket:

https://git.osgeo.org/gitea/osgeo/todo/issues/37

In the board meeting we decided to make the final discission in the 
marketing committee. So the discussion we go on there.

Thanks everybody for the discussion.

Astrid

Am 17.06.2019 21:40 schrieb Astrid Emde (OSGeo):
> Hello,
> 
> here are the answers to the questions:
> 
> 1. We definitely publish our FOSS4G Videos at TIB AV-Portal - there is
> a great team at TIB AV-Portal and the workflow and rules are defined -
> see
> https://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/FOSS_for_GIS_video_tutorials_and_screencasts#Where_to_publish_your_screencast
> 
> 2.  who administrates the youtube account?
> I can administrate the account and find some more volunteers.
> One volunteer already showed up.
> 
> 3. Information about FOSS4G videos
> There is a video section in the FOSS4G handbook already. We could add
> the youtube information
> https://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/FOSS4G_Handbook#Videos
> 
> 4. License
> The videos neet to have the CC BY-SA 4.0 License (speaker have to agree
> in advance).
> At events the speaker have to agree to this license before. Else no
> upload is possible (same as for TIB AV-Portal)
> https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/4.0/
> 
> 5. Video Committee
> There was an idea to create a video committee. Preparation was done 
> here
> https://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Video_Committee
> 
> 6. workflow to bring the videos to youtube
> * for FOSS4G there will be a script that automatically uploads the
> videos see
> https://github.com/voc/voctopublish/blob/master/voctopublish/
> * for other events a temporary storage on a server is needed to refer
> to the videos and upload them (should work also automatically)
> 
> 7. Why Youtube? pro / cons
> * people search at youtube and will find FOSS4G videos here too
> * pro immediate access to the videos -> TIB AV-Portal needs some weeks
> * no longterm archive -> we also have TIB AV-Portal for this
> * for FOSS4G 2019 it is just another place for the videos: we already
> have https://av.tib.eu/ https://media.ccc.de/
> 
> 8. Promote the channel
> If we decide to use the channel and use it also for other events we
> would promote it when we hear about upcoming OSGeo events. But no
> must. If events still would like to use their own channel that would
> be fine.
> 
> Astrid
> 
> Am 17.06.2019 17:42 schrieb Eli Adam:
>> +1 to FOSS4G youtube account.  Till raised a few good questions
>> pertaining to the logistics side.
>> 
>> Best regards, Eli
>> 
>> On Sun, Jun 16, 2019 at 11:03 PM Till Adams <till.adams at fossgis.de> 
>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Dear Astrid,
>>> 
>>> I think this is a good idea - although personally I am not big fan of
>>> these social stuff, I hink it's a good way to promote open Source GIS
>>> tools, as a lot of people outside our community will not find the 
>>> other
>>> channels, where we put our video-mateirals.
>>> 
>>> I have some practical issues regarding this:
>>> 
>>> - who administers this account?
>>> 
>>> - who actually puts the videos online?
>>> 
>>> - do we need to get additional permission from the speakers?
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Reagrds, Till
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Am 15.06.19 um 23:02 schrieb Cameron Shorter:
>>> > +1 Great idea to have the FOSS4G youtube channel.
>>> >
>>> > We should decide whether we want this channel to be just for the
>>> > international FOSS4G, or can be extended so that regional and local
>>> > events can use it too.  (I'm in favour of it being open to regional
>>> > and local FOSS4G events).
>>> >
>>> > On 15/6/19 11:19 pm, Astrid Emde (OSGeo) wrote:
>>> >> Hello,
>>> >>
>>> >> Youtube would only be a third location of our FOSS4G videos. Only an
>>> >> offer not a must have. They have already all videos in TIB AV-Portal
>>> >> (if the LOC provides them) and we can have them at https://media.ccc.de
>>> >>
>>> >> The videos will have the CC BY-SA 4.0 License (speaker have to agree
>>> >> in advance)
>>> >> https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/4.0/
>>> >>
>>> >> He have a page that refers to the video locations:
>>> >> http://video.foss4g.org/
>>> >>
>>> >> So youtube would be a nice to have but is not necessary.
>>> >>
>>> >> Astrid
>>> >>
>>> >> Am 15.06.2019 14:03 schrieb María Arias de Reyna:
>>> >>> HI,
>>> >>>
>>> >>> Youtube has many obvious SEO and positioning advantages, but I'm
>>> >>> doubtful of having all our videos on a privative platform like
>>> >>> Google/Youtube, specially if we have enough "iron" to host ourselves.
>>> >>> (See for example [1], we may have even more iron incoming). At least,
>>> >>> I wouldn't have it as the primary entrypoint and storage of videos
>>> >>> with such educational and state of the art value.
>>> >>>
>>> >>> On a quick look I couldn't find any good explanation on the possible
>>> >>> issues with Youtube and the license/IP. I assume you already checked
>>> >>> for FOSSGIS and it is clear? I understand that "YOU GRANT TO YOUTUBE A
>>> >>> NON-EXCLUSIVE, WORLDWIDE, perpetual license to freely sub-license,
>>> >>> re-distribute, re-publish, monetize, and whatever they may want to do
>>> >>> with your video"[2]. Would they be able to copy/paste and alter the
>>> >>> video and then redistribute it in a way that is bad for OSGeo? (I know
>>> >>> they have done some copy/paste to use for promotional videos, not sure
>>> >>> if something else.)
>>> >>>
>>> >>> They may monetize the videos. Are we ok with that? Are we going to ask
>>> >>> all our speakers to be ok with that?
>>> >>>
>>> >>> (And the answer may be that we are ok with all this, I just wanted to
>>> >>> raise the issue.)
>>> >>>
>>> >>> Cheers,
>>> >>> María
>>> >>>
>>> >>> [1] https://lists.osgeo.org/pipermail/sac/2019-June/011163.html [7]
>>> >>> [2] https://tubularinsights.com/youtube-copyright-ownership/ [8]
>>> >>> (using this link because Youtube insists on showing me the Spanish
>>> >>> version of the license)
>>> >>>
>>> >>> On Sat, Jun 15, 2019 at 11:52 AM Astrid Emde (OSGeo)
>>> >>> <astrid_emde at osgeo.org> wrote:
>>> >>>
>>> >>>> Hello,
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>> FOSS4G is coming closer and we are planning to record all the
>>> >>>> videos
>>> >>>> from FOSS4G 2019 together with the c3voc-video team.
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>> They will be uploaded at
>>> >>>> * https://media.ccc.de/search/?q=FOSS4G [1]
>>> >>>> * and at TIB AV-Portal https://av.tib.eu/search?q=FOSS4G&loc=de [2]
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>> and if we want at youtube.
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>> I would like to suggest to create a youtube account called "FOSS4G"
>>> >>>> for
>>> >>>> the global FOSS4G event.
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>> This account does not exist yet.
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>> https://www.youtube.com/user/foss4g [3]
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>> Advantage
>>> >>>> * with a permanent account people could subscribe
>>> >>>> * all videos from FOSS4G are in one account
>>> >>>> * better ranking for an active channel
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>> There are many accounts for the individual events like:
>>> >>>> https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=FOSS4G [4]
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>> F.e. we have a similar accounts for FOSSGIS where we upload every
>>> >>>> year
>>> >>>> our FOSSGIS-conference videos here (maybe also the FOSS4G europe
>>> >>>> and NA
>>> >>>> videos if we want)
>>> >>>> https://www.youtube.com/user/fossgis/videos [5]
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>> What do you think about this idea?
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>> Astrid
>>> >>>> _______________________________________________
>>> >>>> Board mailing list
>>> >>>> Board at lists.osgeo.org
>>> >>>> https://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/board [6]
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>> Links:
>>> >>> ------
>>> >>> [1] https://media.ccc.de/search/?q=FOSS4G
>>> >>> [2] https://av.tib.eu/search?q=FOSS4G&loc=de
>>> >>> [3] https://www.youtube.com/user/foss4g
>>> >>> [4] https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=FOSS4G
>>> >>> [5] https://www.youtube.com/user/fossgis/videos
>>> >>> [6] https://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/board
>>> >>> [7] https://lists.osgeo.org/pipermail/sac/2019-June/011163.html
>>> >>> [8] https://tubularinsights.com/youtube-copyright-ownership/
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