[OSGeo-Conf] [Board] Motion to create a youtube account FOSS4G

Fri Jun 28 01:52:13 PDT 2019

Thanks Astrid, I will make a motion for us to do this :)
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Jody Garnett

On Mon, 24 Jun 2019 at 19:06, Astrid Emde (OSGeo) <astrid_emde at osgeo.org>
wrote:

> Hello,
>
> I collected (hopefully) all the information from the thread to the
> ticket:
>
> https://git.osgeo.org/gitea/osgeo/todo/issues/37
>
> In the board meeting we decided to make the final discission in the
> marketing committee. So the discussion we go on there.
>
> Thanks everybody for the discussion.
>
> Astrid
>
> Am 17.06.2019 21:40 schrieb Astrid Emde (OSGeo):
> > Hello,
> >
> > here are the answers to the questions:
> >
> > 1. We definitely publish our FOSS4G Videos at TIB AV-Portal - there is
> > a great team at TIB AV-Portal and the workflow and rules are defined -
> > see
> >
> https://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/FOSS_for_GIS_video_tutorials_and_screencasts#Where_to_publish_your_screencast
> >
> > 2.  who administrates the youtube account?
> > I can administrate the account and find some more volunteers.
> > One volunteer already showed up.
> >
> > 3. Information about FOSS4G videos
> > There is a video section in the FOSS4G handbook already. We could add
> > the youtube information
> > https://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/FOSS4G_Handbook#Videos
> >
> > 4. License
> > The videos neet to have the CC BY-SA 4.0 License (speaker have to agree
> > in advance).
> > At events the speaker have to agree to this license before. Else no
> > upload is possible (same as for TIB AV-Portal)
> > https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/4.0/
> >
> > 5. Video Committee
> > There was an idea to create a video committee. Preparation was done
> > here
> > https://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Video_Committee
> >
> > 6. workflow to bring the videos to youtube
> > * for FOSS4G there will be a script that automatically uploads the
> > videos see
> > https://github.com/voc/voctopublish/blob/master/voctopublish/
> > * for other events a temporary storage on a server is needed to refer
> > to the videos and upload them (should work also automatically)
> >
> > 7. Why Youtube? pro / cons
> > * people search at youtube and will find FOSS4G videos here too
> > * pro immediate access to the videos -> TIB AV-Portal needs some weeks
> > * no longterm archive -> we also have TIB AV-Portal for this
> > * for FOSS4G 2019 it is just another place for the videos: we already
> > have https://av.tib.eu/ https://media.ccc.de/
> >
> > 8. Promote the channel
> > If we decide to use the channel and use it also for other events we
> > would promote it when we hear about upcoming OSGeo events. But no
> > must. If events still would like to use their own channel that would
> > be fine.
> >
> > Astrid
> >
> > Am 17.06.2019 17:42 schrieb Eli Adam:
> >> +1 to FOSS4G youtube account.  Till raised a few good questions
> >> pertaining to the logistics side.
> >>
> >> Best regards, Eli
> >>
> >> On Sun, Jun 16, 2019 at 11:03 PM Till Adams <till.adams at fossgis.de>
> >> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Dear Astrid,
> >>>
> >>> I think this is a good idea - although personally I am not big fan of
> >>> these social stuff, I hink it's a good way to promote open Source GIS
> >>> tools, as a lot of people outside our community will not find the
> >>> other
> >>> channels, where we put our video-mateirals.
> >>>
> >>> I have some practical issues regarding this:
> >>>
> >>> - who administers this account?
> >>>
> >>> - who actually puts the videos online?
> >>>
> >>> - do we need to get additional permission from the speakers?
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Reagrds, Till
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Am 15.06.19 um 23:02 schrieb Cameron Shorter:
> >>> > +1 Great idea to have the FOSS4G youtube channel.
> >>> >
> >>> > We should decide whether we want this channel to be just for the
> >>> > international FOSS4G, or can be extended so that regional and local
> >>> > events can use it too.  (I'm in favour of it being open to regional
> >>> > and local FOSS4G events).
> >>> >
> >>> > On 15/6/19 11:19 pm, Astrid Emde (OSGeo) wrote:
> >>> >> Hello,
> >>> >>
> >>> >> Youtube would only be a third location of our FOSS4G videos. Only an
> >>> >> offer not a must have. They have already all videos in TIB AV-Portal
> >>> >> (if the LOC provides them) and we can have them at
> https://media.ccc.de
> >>> >>
> >>> >> The videos will have the CC BY-SA 4.0 License (speaker have to agree
> >>> >> in advance)
> >>> >> https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/4.0/
> >>> >>
> >>> >> He have a page that refers to the video locations:
> >>> >> http://video.foss4g.org/
> >>> >>
> >>> >> So youtube would be a nice to have but is not necessary.
> >>> >>
> >>> >> Astrid
> >>> >>
> >>> >> Am 15.06.2019 14:03 schrieb María Arias de Reyna:
> >>> >>> HI,
> >>> >>>
> >>> >>> Youtube has many obvious SEO and positioning advantages, but I'm
> >>> >>> doubtful of having all our videos on a privative platform like
> >>> >>> Google/Youtube, specially if we have enough "iron" to host
> ourselves.
> >>> >>> (See for example [1], we may have even more iron incoming). At
> least,
> >>> >>> I wouldn't have it as the primary entrypoint and storage of videos
> >>> >>> with such educational and state of the art value.
> >>> >>>
> >>> >>> On a quick look I couldn't find any good explanation on the
> possible
> >>> >>> issues with Youtube and the license/IP. I assume you already
> checked
> >>> >>> for FOSSGIS and it is clear? I understand that "YOU GRANT TO
> YOUTUBE A
> >>> >>> NON-EXCLUSIVE, WORLDWIDE, perpetual license to freely sub-license,
> >>> >>> re-distribute, re-publish, monetize, and whatever they may want to
> do
> >>> >>> with your video"[2]. Would they be able to copy/paste and alter the
> >>> >>> video and then redistribute it in a way that is bad for OSGeo? (I
> know
> >>> >>> they have done some copy/paste to use for promotional videos, not
> sure
> >>> >>> if something else.)
> >>> >>>
> >>> >>> They may monetize the videos. Are we ok with that? Are we going to
> ask
> >>> >>> all our speakers to be ok with that?
> >>> >>>
> >>> >>> (And the answer may be that we are ok with all this, I just wanted
> to
> >>> >>> raise the issue.)
> >>> >>>
> >>> >>> Cheers,
> >>> >>> María
> >>> >>>
> >>> >>> [1] https://lists.osgeo.org/pipermail/sac/2019-June/011163.html
> [7]
> >>> >>> [2] https://tubularinsights.com/youtube-copyright-ownership/ [8]
> >>> >>> (using this link because Youtube insists on showing me the Spanish
> >>> >>> version of the license)
> >>> >>>
> >>> >>> On Sat, Jun 15, 2019 at 11:52 AM Astrid Emde (OSGeo)
> >>> >>> <astrid_emde at osgeo.org> wrote:
> >>> >>>
> >>> >>>> Hello,
> >>> >>>>
> >>> >>>> FOSS4G is coming closer and we are planning to record all the
> >>> >>>> videos
> >>> >>>> from FOSS4G 2019 together with the c3voc-video team.
> >>> >>>>
> >>> >>>> They will be uploaded at
> >>> >>>> * https://media.ccc.de/search/?q=FOSS4G [1]
> >>> >>>> * and at TIB AV-Portal https://av.tib.eu/search?q=FOSS4G&loc=de
> [2]
> >>> >>>>
> >>> >>>> and if we want at youtube.
> >>> >>>>
> >>> >>>> I would like to suggest to create a youtube account called
> "FOSS4G"
> >>> >>>> for
> >>> >>>> the global FOSS4G event.
> >>> >>>>
> >>> >>>> This account does not exist yet.
> >>> >>>>
> >>> >>>> https://www.youtube.com/user/foss4g [3]
> >>> >>>>
> >>> >>>> Advantage
> >>> >>>> * with a permanent account people could subscribe
> >>> >>>> * all videos from FOSS4G are in one account
> >>> >>>> * better ranking for an active channel
> >>> >>>>
> >>> >>>> There are many accounts for the individual events like:
> >>> >>>> https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=FOSS4G [4]
> >>> >>>>
> >>> >>>> F.e. we have a similar accounts for FOSSGIS where we upload every
> >>> >>>> year
> >>> >>>> our FOSSGIS-conference videos here (maybe also the FOSS4G europe
> >>> >>>> and NA
> >>> >>>> videos if we want)
> >>> >>>> https://www.youtube.com/user/fossgis/videos [5]
> >>> >>>>
> >>> >>>> What do you think about this idea?
> >>> >>>>
> >>> >>>> Astrid
> >>> >>>> _______________________________________________
> >>> >>>> Board mailing list
> >>> >>>> Board at lists.osgeo.org
> >>> >>>> https://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/board [6]
> >>> >>>
> >>> >>>
> >>> >>> Links:
> >>> >>> ------
> >>> >>> [1] https://media.ccc.de/search/?q=FOSS4G
> >>> >>> [2] https://av.tib.eu/search?q=FOSS4G&loc=de
> >>> >>> [3] https://www.youtube.com/user/foss4g
> >>> >>> [4] https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=FOSS4G
> >>> >>> [5] https://www.youtube.com/user/fossgis/videos
> >>> >>> [6] https://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/board
> >>> >>> [7] https://lists.osgeo.org/pipermail/sac/2019-June/011163.html
> >>> >>> [8] https://tubularinsights.com/youtube-copyright-ownership/
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