[OSGeo-Conf] R: Motion: 2nd Call for TGP for local events / Applicaiton for Travel Grant Programme"OSGeo Oceania" 2019

Tue Sep 3 02:00:30 PDT 2019

Dear Maria,

(sorry for starting an email discussion, if we can't agreee and before
it gets too hard, we might switch into a telco or s.th. similar.)

is your statement a kind of "-0" which says you do not agree or is this
a "-1" which means, that you will actively block any effort in that
direction?

As you already lined out an alternative ("in case we do not find an
opportunity to spend the money, we ask the board to put it on our next
years budget") a "-1" would be okay for me -- although I would really
like to understand the "why".

Let me just say some words from my side: Since this year we as CC have a
budget, but maybe it is not so well known, that we can support also
local/regional conferences with their travel grant programme. So one
might say, okay, if we get this fact more spread in the comunity, it is
better to have more money next year. On the other hand, we have this TGP
at least on the gloabal conferences since few years and always we
mention it, everybody is happy and says this is a great thing to do -
because it lowers - at least for some - the barreer for participation on
a F4G conference.

Which is one of the main goals of OSGeo: Building a community and giving
everybody the chance to participate in our community.

So, I dare to state, that we all think, that TGP is a great thing, right?

So, one scenario for F4G Oceania might have been, they did not dare to
request for more budget, because they wanted to be fair to potential
other local chapters, that request money (which would have been quite
nice BTW).

Other point might have been, that they did not know, how the conference
taking place end of the year develops, when they requested TGP money
early in the year.

Nevertheless, what was the reason for not claiming for more TGP-budget,
I don't see the point, why not giving them now (in case that no other
local chapter wants to) more money that would defenitely help them to
prosper their community (which is the reason for TGP at all).

Also I see especially their community, as the participants come from
places, that might be far to the conference city. So, if we want to have
more budget for TGP for next year, I think it's clever to a) spent our
2019 budget completely and b) find a clear argumentation towards the
board, why we need more budget for TGP.

Hey CC, how do you others think?

Till

Am 03.09.19 um 08:01 schrieb Maria Antonia Brovelli:
> I don't agree with giving two times to the same conference. 
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> *Da:* Conference_dev <conference_dev-bounces at lists.osgeo.org> per
> conto di Till Adams <till.adams at fossgis.de>
> *Inviato:* martedì 3 settembre 2019 07:58
> *A:* conference_dev at lists.osgeo.org <conference_dev at lists.osgeo.org>
> *Oggetto:* Re: [OSGeo-Conf] Motion: 2nd Call for TGP for local events
> / Applicaiton for Travel Grant Programme"OSGeo Oceania" 2019
>  
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> Dear Maria,
>
> AFAIK we already agreed on having a 2nd call this year, so the only
> change is to allow the Oceanian chapter to apply again and for more money.
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> (BTW: I personally do not see any sense in now deciding to save the
> money for next year, if there is interest ;-) )
>
> Till
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> Am 02.09.19 um 12:02 schrieb Maria Antonia Brovelli:
>> In my opinion it is better to give them what was requested and ask
>> the Board to add the remaining budget in that of next year.
>> Best
>> Maria
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>> *From:* Conference_dev <conference_dev-bounces at lists.osgeo.org>
>> <mailto:conference_dev-bounces at lists.osgeo.org> on behalf of Till
>> Adams <till.adams at fossgis.de> <mailto:till.adams at fossgis.de>
>> *Sent:* Monday, September 2, 2019 11:59:49 AM
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>> *Subject:* [OSGeo-Conf] Motion: 2nd Call for TGP for local events /
>> Applicaiton for Travel Grant Programme"OSGeo Oceania" 2019
>>  
>> Dear Conference Committee,
>>
>> at FOSS4G in Bucharest I talked to John (see "CC") from the Oceania F4G
>> and pointed him to the fact, that we still have 5.500 Us $ left on our
>> TGP budget for 2019.
>>
>> I would better dedicate the money to them than letting it remain unused.
>> The problem is little the time, as their conference will be in November.
>>
>>
>> I would propose the following:
>>
>> We kick out a call for TGP Support very soon (the same that we already
>> did in April - with no reply beside the Ocenaian Team). I would suggest
>> John to answer that one as well and request for more support. If we get
>> other applications, we have to discuss, if not, we can offer the
>> Oceanian Team the rest of our 2019 budget.
>>
>> Any thoughts on that? Please vote until 8th of September.
>>
>>
>> Till
>>
>>
>>
>> Am 20.05.19 um 14:23 schrieb Till Adams:
>> > Dear CC!
>> >
>> > after my email below no vetoes came in. This means, we agree to support
>> > Oceania TGP with 2.500 US $, congrats to John and his team!
>> >
>> > @John, please contact the board (as last year) for payment details.
>> > Hopefully the moneyh elps to get at least some people over ;-)
>> >
>> >
>> > Till
>> >
>> >
>> > Am 13.05.19 um 13:49 schrieb Till Adams:
>> >> Dear CC!
>> >>
>> >> Sorry, I did not giv a deadline for this motion. Up now, I received
>> >> several "+1" votes and no vote against. If anybody want to express
>> *not*
>> >> to support or has any questions supporting Oceanian TGP with 2.500
>> US $,
>> >> please vote against until 17th of May.
>> >>
>> >> Till
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Am 03.05.19 um 06:46 schrieb Sanghee Shin:
>> >>> +1
>> >>>
>> >>>  
>> >>>
>> >>> 신상희
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>> >>> *보낸 사람: *Vasile Craciunescu <mailto:vasile at geo-spatial.org>
>> >>> *보낸 날짜: *2019년5월3일 금요일 오후1:32
>> >>> *받는 사람: *conference_dev at lists.osgeo.org
>> >>> <mailto:conference_dev at lists.osgeo.org>
>> >>> *제목: *Re: [OSGeo-Conf] Motion: Applicaiton for Travel Grant
>> >>> Programme"OSGeo Oceania" 2019
>> >>>
>> >>>  
>> >>>
>> >>> +1
>> >>>
>> >>>  
>> >>>
>> >>> -Vasile
>> >>>
>> >>>  
>> >>>
>> >>> On 02/05/2019 17:35, Till Adams wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>>> Dear CC!
>> >>>> my email-call below lead to the application of FOSS4G-NA (which we
>> >>>> decided fast, see my email on 27th of March) and since we have only
>> >>>> received one more application:
>> >>>> John Bryan from OSGeo-LC Oceania and their regional FOSS4G in 2019
>> >>>> applied 2.5k US$ support of their TGP (In 2018 we supported them
>> with
>> >>>> US$ 2000).
>> >>>> Our budget looks as follows:
>> >>>> 25k US $ total budget
>> >>>> - 15k US $ (global FOSs4G)
>> >>>> - 2k US $ (FOSS4G NA)
>> >>>> -----------
>> >>>> 8k US $ open
>> >>>> I would propose to fully accept the application of FOSS4G Oceania.
>> >>>> That would leave us a rest of 5.5k US$ - for this we can
>> schedule a 2nd
>> >>>> call in June.
>> >>>> Regards, Till
>> >>>> Am 25.03.19 um 14:43 schrieb Till Adams:
>> >>>>> Dear OSGeo community,
>> >>>>>  
>> >>>>> - sorry for the delay in the procedure -
>> >>>>>  
>> >>>>> The board dedicated the OSGeo conference committee a budget for
>> >>>>> supporting travel grant programmes for our global FOSS4G event,
>> but also
>> >>>>> for supporting regional FOSS4G events.
>> >>>>>  
>> >>>>> We will share the budget, so that one major part will support
>> the global
>> >>>>> FOSS4G event, but there is still budget, with which we want to
>> support
>> >>>>> regional events.
>> >>>>>  
>> >>>>> As we have no clue, how many regional events will apply for
>> support, we,
>> >>>>> OSGeo's Conference Committee (CC) decided to first *call for
>> >>>>> applications*. Depending on the number of applications, we
>> decide later
>> >>>>> whether selection is necessary and how to select events to
>> support. What
>> >>>>> we do not want to have is a "first comes, first serves",
>> because that
>> >>>>> would favour events, that take place earlier in the year.
>> >>>>>  
>> >>>>> Applicants should email the CC list with the info requested at [1],
>> >>>>> please send your application until 19th of April.
>> >>>>>  
>> >>>>> If possible, it would be great if you would also number the
>> amount of
>> >>>>> support that you would like to receive.
>> >>>>>  
>> >>>>> When we see how many applications we receive, we will then decide
>> >>>>> whether CC needs to set up a basic set of requirements for
>> decision.
>> >>>>>  
>> >>>>>  
>> >>>>> Till and Steven for OSgeo's CC
>> >>>>>  
>> >>>>>  
>> >>>>> [1]
>> >>>>>
>> https://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/FOSS4G_Travel_Grant_Programme_Cookbook#Applications_to_the_Conference_Committee_for_OSGeo_support
>> >>>>>  
>> >>>>>  
>> >>>>>  
>> >>>>>  
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