[OSGeo-Conf] FOSS4G 2024 in Belem, Brazil

Sun Jun 4 01:09:31 PDT 2023

Dear Michael,

thank you for sharing these data. I believe they show the need to host the conference in other geographies. Even though I may not be able to attend.

Paul, for you I would expect reaching Prizren to be a bigger challenge than reaching Belém. If OSGeo indeed intends to reach globally, there will always be locations challenging for some.

Regards.

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On Saturday, June 3rd, 2023 at 8:27 PM, michael terner <ternergeo at gmail.com> wrote:

> To Paul's question about historic attendance of host country/continent, below is a summary of all FOSS4G conferences based on data that were made available (details on this spreadsheet are below). The "host country" attendance is one of those metrics.
> [Screen Shot 2023-06-03 at 2.15.46 PM.png]
> Luca and the Florence LOC shared their data as well and the screenshot below shows the continental distribution:
> [Screen Shot 2023-06-03 at 2.20.22 PM.png]
> Spreadsheet data origins:
> After the Boston Conference in 2017, we "modernized" the FOSS4G "conference stats" spreadsheet (i.e., the older sheet had become a bit unruly), and that's what you're seeing. Each conference has its own tab with each team's data. While each tab has variation, we've been able to generate some useful summary statistics and we've shared the spreadsheet with any LOCs that are interested. Equally, the individual tabs give you the specific information for individual conferences.
>
> I hope this helps...
>
> MT
>
> On Fri, Jun 2, 2023 at 1:18 PM Paul Ramsey <pramsey at cleverelephant.ca> wrote:
>
>>> On Jun 2, 2023, at 4:58 AM, Felipe Sodre Barros <felipe.b4rros at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> Thanks for the support and consideration/concerns on our proposal. We believe that all those come to make a stronger proposal, if it is the case.
>>>
>>> We understand that Belém can be seen as "a little bit out-of-the-way". But on the other hand we believe that proposing cities such as São Paulo and Rio de Janeiro, for instance, wouldn't help much on building a more inclusive and diverse event.
>>
>> Could you explain the reasoning? I know, for my part, that the “last hop” from YVR to YYJ (15 minutes flight time) generally adds about 30%-40% to my travel bill and 2-3 hours to my travel time. Secondary cities are nice (I live in one, it sounds a lot like Belem!), but there are tangible costs to travelling to and from them.
>>
>>> Belém is a big city with all the infrastructure needed to host this kind of event. Just to take advantage of the timing, recently it was officially defined as hosting the international climate meeting, COP30, in 2025. Not to mention other national events already hosted.
>>> Beyond the event subject, Belém has been growing as a scientific national/international hotspot hosting INPE offices (Brazilian space agency), among others.
>>
>> I am sure Belem is great!
>>
>>> Indeed Brazil has regular national/regional and local open source geo conferences, but it has been done scattered in the Brazilian territory and with a well defined niche. There is no such event like FOSS4G to embrace all niches in one big event. So, we see it as an opportunity t as we have a strong "FOSS4g" community (QGIS, R, OSM, and so on).
>>
>> I think this is really key. As long as the local community and near regional community is strong, it will be a great conference. Do we have a rep from Florence on the list? What amount/proportion of attendance was non-European in 2022? My “rule of thumb” numbers in my head are very old now.
>>
>>> To reduce risks and being competitive with other events we have in our plan making a good articulation with all brazilian players that works with or promote geo* events, like governmental agencies (IBGE, INPE, EMBRAPA) or scientific groups (SELPER) and even from the private sector like MundoGEO.
>>
>> That’s really awesome! If there’s an involved local committee (both right on-site and also in-country) and (most importantly) a committee Chair who is prepared to have “the experience of a lifetime” (in all senses (ask any former chair)) then this should be a great event.
>>
>> Thank you all so much for stepping forward.
>>
>> P
>>
>>> So, there being said, we will start preparing the proposal as requested with as much detail we can.
>>>
>>> Cheers
>>>
>>> Em qui., 1 de jun. de 2023 às 13:34, Arnulf Christl <arnulf.christl at metaspatial.net> escreveu:
>>>
>>>> Hey folks,
>>>> for some reason this email was delivered to my spam folder. Just in case this happened to others I repost with slightly different subject... I support Paul's valid questions and believe that Iván's proposals addresses some of them.
>>>>
>>>> So for me it eventually boils down to:
>>>>
>>>> - Solid commitment from the LoC
>>>> - Support from one (or more) of the three organizations
>>>>
>>>> All the best,
>>>> Arnulf
>>>>
>>>> Am 31.05.23 um 17:01 schrieb Iván Sánchez Ortega:
>>>>
>>>>> El miércoles, 31 de mayo de 2023 15:12:35 (CEST) Paul Ramsey escribió:
>>>>>
>>>>>> I feel great about Brazil, but Belem seems a little bit out-of-the-way?
>>>>>
>>>>> I know it's not Rio nor São Paulo, but Belém has an int'l airport, two
>>>>> university campuses, a delegation of the national mapping agency, the works.
>>>>> It ticks my boxes.
>>>>>
>>>>> I think that if the LOC can secure the support of the universities and/or
>>>>> IGBE, then Belém would be a very solid proposal.
>>>>
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