[OSGeo-Discuss] inspire conference 2013: help with presentation proposal

Fri Mar 15 05:16:29 PDT 2013

Hi.

Just a few comments about the document.

In "Keywords", there are Open Source projects that are not related with
OSGeo. As far as I know, NASA Worldwind is not in OSGeo, and gvSIG CE is a
fork of the official gvSIG, which is in incubation.

About Notes and Goals, I would add something related to How JRC or Inspire
can support OSGeo projects (using them, contributing to the communities, or
even making some recommendations).

My 2 cents.

Best regards.

Fran.

2013/3/15 Seven (aka Arnulf) <seven at arnulf.us>

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> Madi,
> I am pretty sure that "Members of the JRC INSPIRE Technical Committee"
> is also sort of "wrong". The JRC is only the "facilitator" for the
> "INSPIRE process". They are (and definitely don't *feel*)
> "responsible" for INSPIRE. In the end it is the member states who are
> responsible for everything and you can't get a hold of them either
> because they send people to do something about INSPIRE. Then there are
> the SIGs and some companies are also involved in defining the rules,
> some get paid, some don't, some want to influence the process so that
> they can sell their software and so on. Slippery slopes all over the
> place.
>
> - From all the quotes in this you can easily tell that definition-wise
> this is a big mess. And it got me into trouble every single time in
> the past ten years that I tried to interact with anybody "responsible"
> for INSPIRE.
>
> My suggestion was and is that those people who have to implement
> INSPIRE finally take ownership of it. That is broadly said "INSPIRE
> users". But feel free to go ahead as you think fits best.
>
> Cheers,
> Arnulf
>
>
> On 15.03.2013 12:08, Margherita Di Leo wrote:
> > Hi Arnulf,
> >
> > On Fri, Mar 15, 2013 at 11:31 AM, Seven (aka Arnulf)
> > <seven at arnulf.us <mailto:seven at arnulf.us>> wrote:
> >
> > Folks, I really like the idea of the round table but changed some
> > wording to amend the expectations for it. This was mainly to the
> > effect of avoiding up front misunderstanding which invariably over
> > the past years lead to unnecessary friction.
> >
> >
> >> Thank you for that, it sounds way better now. We don't aim to
> >> create any friction but to improve the dialog, so smoothing the
> >> tone was a good thing IMHO.
> >
> >
> > The whole point of INSPIRE is that there is nobody singly
> > responsible. It has evolved over time and through the contribution
> > of the broadest set of different people from different backgrounds
> > and many are not even involved any more. Therefore we cannot really
> > talk to "the people responsible for INSPIRE" - there simply are
> > none. To avoid having one side of the table empty I changed
> > "members of the INSPIRE Technical Committee" to "users involved
> > with INSPIRE". Maybe that is too broad, if so please change to
> > something else.
> >
> >
> >> Here maybe there was a misunderstanding. With "Members of the
> >> INSPIRE Technical Committee" I meant people from JRC working on
> >> the implementation of the technical rules, so if you agree I'd
> >> change this in: "Members of the JRC INSPIRE Technical Committee".
> >> Users involved with INSPIRE are of course welcome as well..
>
>
>
> > To the same effect I changed "discussion" (which always results in
> > one winner and one loser) to "dialog" (which means that people
> > listen to each other and learn from each other).
> >
> >
> >> very good.
> >
> >
> > Hope this sits well with you, otherwise feel free to revert to an
> > earlier version.
> >
> > Please note that the Wiki had a hickup when saving two conflicting
> > edits, so one intermediate version is raw HTML. I tried to save
> > the earlier changes, mainly adding Paolo to the list of
> > contributors. Please recheck, if you edited in the past hour or
> > so.
> >
> > Looking forward to seeing some of you at the conference.
> >
> >
> >> Thanks! m
> >
> >
> > Cheers, Arnulf
> >
> > On 14.03.2013 22:14, Angelos Tzotsos wrote:
> >> Hi Margherita, Jachym.
> >
> >> Margherita, thanks for the workshop proposal draft. I will
> >> review this too.
> >
> >> Jachym, the abstract review is done on my side. Please have a
> >> look.
> >
> >> Regards, Angelos
> >
> >> On 03/14/2013 10:41 PM, Margherita Di Leo wrote:
> >>> Thank you Jachym. I also prepared the workshop proposal here
> >>>
> >
> http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/INSPIRE_conference_2013#Tennis_table_match:_OSGeo_vs_INSPIRE
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >
> >
> if you guys could also review this. And, of course, add your names and
> >>> affiliations.
> >>>
> >>> Thanks
> >>>
> >>> On Thu, Mar 14, 2013 at 7:57 PM, Angelos Tzotsos
> >>> <gcpp.kalxas at gmail.com <mailto:gcpp.kalxas at gmail.com>>wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> Hi Jachym,
> >>>>
> >>>> I will review the proposal and make additions/corrections.
> >>>>
> >>>> Regards, Angelos
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> On 03/14/2013 07:46 PM, Jachym Cepicky wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> Hi,
> >>>>
> >>>> can anybody please have a look at the proposal of
> >>>> presentation of INSPIRE conference, I've prepared at [1]?
> >>>>
> >>>> I'm not native speaker, nor do I use the language (English)
> >>>> very fluently, so any help mostly welcomed.
> >>>>
> >>>> I would also like to ask, if someone has the capacity and
> >>>> inspiration, that he/she could extend or rewrite completely
> >>>> the proposal I've prepared (and add his/her name at the
> >>>> top).
> >>>>
> >>>> Thanks for help, more work will come if the proposal will be
> >>>> accepted
> >>>>
> >>>> Jachym
> >>>>
> >>>> [1]
> >>>> http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/INSPIRE_conference_2013#Paper_proposal
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >
> >>>>
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> > -- Best regards,
> >
> > Margherita DI LEO Postdoctoral Researcher
> >
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