[OSGeo-Discuss] inspire conference 2013: help with presentation proposal

Fri Mar 15 05:35:59 PDT 2013

hi,

I've added a section to the wiki to clarify that we're talking about two
separate events, a presentation and a workshop :
http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/INSPIRE_conference_2013#Presentation_and_workshop
.

Kind regards
Heikki Doeleman

On Fri, Mar 15, 2013 at 1:16 PM, Francisco José Peñarrubia <fjp at scolab.es>wrote:

> Hi.
>
> Just a few comments about the document.
>
> In "Keywords", there are Open Source projects that are not related with
> OSGeo. As far as I know, NASA Worldwind is not in OSGeo, and gvSIG CE is a
> fork of the official gvSIG, which is in incubation.
>
> About Notes and Goals, I would add something related to How JRC or Inspire
> can support OSGeo projects (using them, contributing to the communities, or
> even making some recommendations).
>
> My 2 cents.
>
> Best regards.
>
> Fran.
>
> 2013/3/15 Seven (aka Arnulf) <seven at arnulf.us>
>
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>> Madi,
>> I am pretty sure that "Members of the JRC INSPIRE Technical Committee"
>> is also sort of "wrong". The JRC is only the "facilitator" for the
>> "INSPIRE process". They are (and definitely don't *feel*)
>> "responsible" for INSPIRE. In the end it is the member states who are
>> responsible for everything and you can't get a hold of them either
>> because they send people to do something about INSPIRE. Then there are
>> the SIGs and some companies are also involved in defining the rules,
>> some get paid, some don't, some want to influence the process so that
>> they can sell their software and so on. Slippery slopes all over the
>> place.
>>
>> - From all the quotes in this you can easily tell that definition-wise
>> this is a big mess. And it got me into trouble every single time in
>> the past ten years that I tried to interact with anybody "responsible"
>> for INSPIRE.
>>
>> My suggestion was and is that those people who have to implement
>> INSPIRE finally take ownership of it. That is broadly said "INSPIRE
>> users". But feel free to go ahead as you think fits best.
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Arnulf
>>
>>
>> On 15.03.2013 12:08, Margherita Di Leo wrote:
>> > Hi Arnulf,
>> >
>> > On Fri, Mar 15, 2013 at 11:31 AM, Seven (aka Arnulf)
>> > <seven at arnulf.us <mailto:seven at arnulf.us>> wrote:
>> >
>> > Folks, I really like the idea of the round table but changed some
>> > wording to amend the expectations for it. This was mainly to the
>> > effect of avoiding up front misunderstanding which invariably over
>> > the past years lead to unnecessary friction.
>> >
>> >
>> >> Thank you for that, it sounds way better now. We don't aim to
>> >> create any friction but to improve the dialog, so smoothing the
>> >> tone was a good thing IMHO.
>> >
>> >
>> > The whole point of INSPIRE is that there is nobody singly
>> > responsible. It has evolved over time and through the contribution
>> > of the broadest set of different people from different backgrounds
>> > and many are not even involved any more. Therefore we cannot really
>> > talk to "the people responsible for INSPIRE" - there simply are
>> > none. To avoid having one side of the table empty I changed
>> > "members of the INSPIRE Technical Committee" to "users involved
>> > with INSPIRE". Maybe that is too broad, if so please change to
>> > something else.
>> >
>> >
>> >> Here maybe there was a misunderstanding. With "Members of the
>> >> INSPIRE Technical Committee" I meant people from JRC working on
>> >> the implementation of the technical rules, so if you agree I'd
>> >> change this in: "Members of the JRC INSPIRE Technical Committee".
>> >> Users involved with INSPIRE are of course welcome as well..
>>
>>
>>
>> > To the same effect I changed "discussion" (which always results in
>> > one winner and one loser) to "dialog" (which means that people
>> > listen to each other and learn from each other).
>> >
>> >
>> >> very good.
>> >
>> >
>> > Hope this sits well with you, otherwise feel free to revert to an
>> > earlier version.
>> >
>> > Please note that the Wiki had a hickup when saving two conflicting
>> > edits, so one intermediate version is raw HTML. I tried to save
>> > the earlier changes, mainly adding Paolo to the list of
>> > contributors. Please recheck, if you edited in the past hour or
>> > so.
>> >
>> > Looking forward to seeing some of you at the conference.
>> >
>> >
>> >> Thanks! m
>> >
>> >
>> > Cheers, Arnulf
>> >
>> > On 14.03.2013 22:14, Angelos Tzotsos wrote:
>> >> Hi Margherita, Jachym.
>> >
>> >> Margherita, thanks for the workshop proposal draft. I will
>> >> review this too.
>> >
>> >> Jachym, the abstract review is done on my side. Please have a
>> >> look.
>> >
>> >> Regards, Angelos
>> >
>> >> On 03/14/2013 10:41 PM, Margherita Di Leo wrote:
>> >>> Thank you Jachym. I also prepared the workshop proposal here
>> >>>
>> >
>> http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/INSPIRE_conference_2013#Tennis_table_match:_OSGeo_vs_INSPIRE
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >
>> >
>> if you guys could also review this. And, of course, add your names and
>> >>> affiliations.
>> >>>
>> >>> Thanks
>> >>>
>> >>> On Thu, Mar 14, 2013 at 7:57 PM, Angelos Tzotsos
>> >>> <gcpp.kalxas at gmail.com <mailto:gcpp.kalxas at gmail.com>>wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>>> Hi Jachym,
>> >>>>
>> >>>> I will review the proposal and make additions/corrections.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Regards, Angelos
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>> On 03/14/2013 07:46 PM, Jachym Cepicky wrote:
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Hi,
>> >>>>
>> >>>> can anybody please have a look at the proposal of
>> >>>> presentation of INSPIRE conference, I've prepared at [1]?
>> >>>>
>> >>>> I'm not native speaker, nor do I use the language (English)
>> >>>> very fluently, so any help mostly welcomed.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> I would also like to ask, if someone has the capacity and
>> >>>> inspiration, that he/she could extend or rewrite completely
>> >>>> the proposal I've prepared (and add his/her name at the
>> >>>> top).
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Thanks for help, more work will come if the proposal will be
>> >>>> accepted
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Jachym
>> >>>>
>> >>>> [1]
>> >>>> http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/INSPIRE_conference_2013#Paper_proposal
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >
>> >>>>
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>> >
>> > -- Best regards,
>> >
>> > Margherita DI LEO Postdoctoral Researcher
>> >
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