[OSGeo-Discuss] [Board] RE : Re: OSGEO4W future

Wed Sep 25 15:34:23 PDT 2013

Frank,

The RFC <http://trac.osgeo.org/osgeo4w/wiki/rfc1_pmc> looks pretty good,
thanks for putting that together. Once the PSC is formed, I'm keen on
writing a second one where we could start thinking about the primary
objectives and requirements of the system we should realize, I think we all
have quite some ideas, and experiences in creating windows builds (both
positive and negative) which makes it possible to find out the right
direction to follow.

I also think packaging on Windows is a different thing, other platforms may
apply for a separate governance regarding to the binary distributions,
there might be some common aspects, though.

Best regards,

Tamas

2013/9/25 Frank Warmerdam <warmerdam at pobox.com>

> Folks,
>
> I have initiated an RFC for a project management committee for
> OSGeo4W.  I'd encourage everyone interested in participating to joint
> the osgeo4w-dev mailing list and to continue detailed discussion
> there.
>
>  http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/osgeo4w-dev
>
> I think this list (osgeo-discuss) is a great place to discuss linkages
> between different packaging efforts.
>
> Best regards,
> Frank
>
>
> On Wed, Sep 25, 2013 at 2:06 AM, Jo Cook <jocook at astuntechnology.com>
> wrote:
> > The newest version of Portable GIS doesn't require quite so many admin
> > privileges, but I've also slimmed it down dramatically so it fits on a
> > smaller USB stick, so it contains a lot less software (no gvsig, no mysql
> > etc). It is used extensively for training courses in the UK, without too
> > many problems, and the new version should be better again as I have a
> > windows 8 VM to test on at last.
> >
> > I'd like to bring Portable GIS in line with OSGeo4W and OSGeo Live- I've
> > spoken to both Alex and Cameron about this in the past- but I have some
> work
> > to do before that's possible- namely around documenting exactly which
> files
> > I change, and also the build process. It's all in a local mercurial
> > repository at the moment, but I'd really like to get it online. To be
> > honest, my big concern is that I don't always have time to focus on
> things
> > outside of my core work (maybe that will change post FOSS4G) and I can't
> > guarantee being able to pitch in at release time, or even respond to
> issues
> > in a timely manner. That's the main reason why I've kept it as a little
> pet
> > project- so I'm not letting anyone else down!
> >
> > Sorry, didn't mean to hijack this discussion!
> >
> > I think it makes sense to come up with an over-arching
> > project/committee/whatever that covers both OSGeo4W and OSGeo-Live, and
> > maybe PortableGIS at some point, rather than separate projects. It's
> always
> > better to share work rather than replicate it. Does anyone have any
> > objections to that idea? Personally, I'd then sketch out the workflows
> for
> > each, and figure out what make-up of committee would be required to
> oversee
> > that and go through incubation.
> >
> > Jo
> >
> >
> > On Wed, Sep 25, 2013 at 2:04 AM, Alex Mandel <tech_dev at wildintellect.com
> >
> > wrote:
> >>
> >> On 09/24/2013 12:50 AM, Johan Van de Wauw wrote:
> >> > On Tue, Sep 24, 2013 at 2:08 AM, Angelos Tzotsos <
> gcpp.kalxas at gmail.com>
> >> > wrote:
> >> >
> >> >>
> >> >> Hi Daniel,
> >> >>
> >> >> I am in favor of both OSGeoLive and OSGeo4W going through a few weeks
> >> >> incubation process.
> >> >>
> >> >> Best,
> >> >> Angelos
> >> >>
> >> > My own impression is that if we want to reach out to non-geek GIS
> >> > users the ideal way would be a system like portable GIS with the great
> >> > documentation of the live dvd, ie run and test the programs without
> >> > needing to be admin or having to install different programs.
> >>
> >> I've researched this problem, talked with Jo (Current author of
> >> PortableGIS http://www.archaeogeek.com/portable-gis.html)
> >>
> >> There is almost no way to make this work without Admin priveleges on a
> >> windows machine. Some individual apps can be made to work by extensively
> >> modifying how they look for libs but many require things like a jvm to
> >> run on top of, or a mix of system an local libs (e.g. Visual C++ is
> >> required for many OSGeo4W apps and requires an install, that's actually
> >> about the only part that has to be installed vs just in the OSGeo4w
> >> folder).
> >>
> >> This is actually why I settled on helping create OSGeo Live bootable
> >> products and virtual machines. Of course this isn't perfect either as
> >> figuring out how to boot a disk or usb seems beyond some users, and the
> >> virtual machine still hits needing admin to install virtualization
> >> software.
> >>
> >> I also agree there's no reason many of the documentation efforts can't
> >> be shared.
> >>
> >> Thanks,
> >> Alex
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> >
> >
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