[OSGeo-Discuss] [Board] RE : Re: OSGEO4W future

Thu Sep 26 23:26:20 PDT 2013

Hi,

I was thinking the same about UbuntuGIS, count me in.

Jachym

P.S. Thank you all for this positive feedback in the discussion

Dne 25.9.2013 15:54, Daniel Morissette napsal(a):
> FYI I talked with Alan yesterday about setting up a PSC for UbuntuGIS to
> increase this project's bus number.
> 
> Let's see what OSGeo4W does, and UbuntuGIS will likely adopt a similar
> approach.
> 
> I agree with those who wrote that we should aim to share as much as
> possible between the various distros, for instance we should aim to
> reuse/share the getting started docs produced by OSGeo-Live.
> 
> That being said I am not convinced that a single PSC overseeing all
> binary distros could be very efficient. OSGeo4W, UbuntuGIS, OSGeo-Live,
> etc, all have some commonalities, but also some big differences in the
> end product due to the nature of the platform that they target. Separate
> PSCs/teams focused on each platform seem more natural to me, even if
> some devs end up participating on multiple teams, but I'd be happy to be
> proven wrong of course.
> 
> Daniel
> 
> 
> On 13-09-25 9:43 AM, Frank Warmerdam wrote:
>> Folks,
>>
>> I have initiated an RFC for a project management committee for
>> OSGeo4W.  I'd encourage everyone interested in participating to joint
>> the osgeo4w-dev mailing list and to continue detailed discussion
>> there.
>>
>>   http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/osgeo4w-dev
>>
>> I think this list (osgeo-discuss) is a great place to discuss linkages
>> between different packaging efforts.
>>
>> Best regards,
>> Frank
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Sep 25, 2013 at 2:06 AM, Jo Cook <jocook at astuntechnology.com>
>> wrote:
>>> The newest version of Portable GIS doesn't require quite so many admin
>>> privileges, but I've also slimmed it down dramatically so it fits on a
>>> smaller USB stick, so it contains a lot less software (no gvsig, no
>>> mysql
>>> etc). It is used extensively for training courses in the UK, without too
>>> many problems, and the new version should be better again as I have a
>>> windows 8 VM to test on at last.
>>>
>>> I'd like to bring Portable GIS in line with OSGeo4W and OSGeo Live- I've
>>> spoken to both Alex and Cameron about this in the past- but I have
>>> some work
>>> to do before that's possible- namely around documenting exactly which
>>> files
>>> I change, and also the build process. It's all in a local mercurial
>>> repository at the moment, but I'd really like to get it online. To be
>>> honest, my big concern is that I don't always have time to focus on
>>> things
>>> outside of my core work (maybe that will change post FOSS4G) and I can't
>>> guarantee being able to pitch in at release time, or even respond to
>>> issues
>>> in a timely manner. That's the main reason why I've kept it as a
>>> little pet
>>> project- so I'm not letting anyone else down!
>>>
>>> Sorry, didn't mean to hijack this discussion!
>>>
>>> I think it makes sense to come up with an over-arching
>>> project/committee/whatever that covers both OSGeo4W and OSGeo-Live, and
>>> maybe PortableGIS at some point, rather than separate projects. It's
>>> always
>>> better to share work rather than replicate it. Does anyone have any
>>> objections to that idea? Personally, I'd then sketch out the
>>> workflows for
>>> each, and figure out what make-up of committee would be required to
>>> oversee
>>> that and go through incubation.
>>>
>>> Jo
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wed, Sep 25, 2013 at 2:04 AM, Alex Mandel
>>> <tech_dev at wildintellect.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> On 09/24/2013 12:50 AM, Johan Van de Wauw wrote:
>>>>> On Tue, Sep 24, 2013 at 2:08 AM, Angelos Tzotsos
>>>>> <gcpp.kalxas at gmail.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi Daniel,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I am in favor of both OSGeoLive and OSGeo4W going through a few weeks
>>>>>> incubation process.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Best,
>>>>>> Angelos
>>>>>>
>>>>> My own impression is that if we want to reach out to non-geek GIS
>>>>> users the ideal way would be a system like portable GIS with the great
>>>>> documentation of the live dvd, ie run and test the programs without
>>>>> needing to be admin or having to install different programs.
>>>>
>>>> I've researched this problem, talked with Jo (Current author of
>>>> PortableGIS http://www.archaeogeek.com/portable-gis.html)
>>>>
>>>> There is almost no way to make this work without Admin priveleges on a
>>>> windows machine. Some individual apps can be made to work by
>>>> extensively
>>>> modifying how they look for libs but many require things like a jvm to
>>>> run on top of, or a mix of system an local libs (e.g. Visual C++ is
>>>> required for many OSGeo4W apps and requires an install, that's actually
>>>> about the only part that has to be installed vs just in the OSGeo4w
>>>> folder).
>>>>
>>>> This is actually why I settled on helping create OSGeo Live bootable
>>>> products and virtual machines. Of course this isn't perfect either as
>>>> figuring out how to boot a disk or usb seems beyond some users, and the
>>>> virtual machine still hits needing admin to install virtualization
>>>> software.
>>>>
>>>> I also agree there's no reason many of the documentation efforts can't
>>>> be shared.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks,
>>>> Alex
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>>>
>>>
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