[OSGeo-Discuss] OSGeo Privacy Policy: [was FOSS4GNA - Someone is watching you :-o]

Thu Dec 17 11:28:06 PST 2015

Thanks for the productive discussion - some of those privacy policies seem
to be website specific ( rather than for an organization as a whole ).

We just are rebooting the webcom so the timing is good for a privacy
discussion. It may be easier to start here and then branch out to project /
committee email lists and a foundation wide policy.

We have a different understanding of foss4g Maxi.
On Thu, Dec 17, 2015 at 4:08 AM Massimiliano Cannata <
massimiliano.cannata at supsi.ch> wrote:

> Dear Gert, deal all,
> after a few days of discussion I would like to sum up some considerations
> to re-focus to subject of my first e-mail and that in my opinion should led
> OSGeo foundation to at least one or two argument for discussion.
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> 1- Some FOSS4G events made use of "aggressive" marketing strategies using
> mailing lists where the users didn't explicitly agree in being notified.
>
> 2- There are laws on privacy protection which are different  for different
> countries/region (this is explained for example at this resource, but I'm
> not a loyer: http://www.lsoft.com/resources/optinlaws.asp )
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> 3- OSGeo act globally and should be respectful as much as possible of all
> the existing rules
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> 4- FOSS4G is the OSGeo's label of their Free and Open Source Software For
> Geospatial conferences
>
>
> Said that each person or organization is responsible for its acts (and is
> free to behave as he/she/it prefer), I would like that OSGeo - and FOSS4G
> that is with no doubt recognized as an OSGeo event - act in respect of a
> well defined privacy protection policy with is
> as much protective of privacy as possible.
>
> Example of Privacy Policy can be found for example in:
> - Apache foundation (
> http://www.apache.org/foundation/policies/privacy.html)
> - Eclipse foundation (https://eclipse.org/legal/privacy.php)
> - Debian (http://www.debianit.com/privacy-policy/)
> - Software Freedom Conservancy (https://sfconservancy.org/privacy-policy/)
> - OpenStack (https://www.openstack.org/privacy/)
>
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> From a short reading all of them seems state that they do not pass
> information to third parties and do not use these information for sending
> newsletter unless explicitly agreed.
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> So, if I raised you attention to this hot topic and in the future people
> will be more sensitive and respectful of privacy when they act in the name
> of FOSS4G or OSGeo I'm 1000% happy and accept any blame on me.
>
>
> Best regard,
> Maxi
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> 2015-12-15 23:38 GMT+01:00 Gert-Jan van der Weijden - Stichting OSGeo.nl <
> gert-jan at osgeo.nl>:
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>> First: I took the opportunity to change the subject of this thread to a
>> less shouting version (CAPS LOCK and spam live side-by-side on my
>> email-irritation-scale)
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>> Second: Funny to see how the use of two different channels (mailing list
>> vs. MailChimp) kind of reflect the different approaches to reach the -more
>> of less- same goal.
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>> Any expanding organisation / movement / community comes to a point where
>> the classical channels (like a mailing list) reach their limits,
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>> and "new" marketing (yuch! marketing==ugly & bad!) channels & methods may
>> help to stretch beyond borders. Which comes at a cost (as Maxi tries to
>> tell, I guess).
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>> Food for thought for the Board face2face meeting in January (and for the
>> entire community) to determine
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>> - what our goals are
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>> - what our values are
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>> - and how these two compare to each other.
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>> Kind regards,
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>> Gert-Jan
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>> *Van:* Discuss [mailto:discuss-bounces at lists.osgeo.org] *Namens *Rob
>> Emanuele
>> *Verzonden:* dinsdag 15 december 2015 21:51
>> *Aan:* David Bianco
>> *CC:* OSGeo Discussions
>> *Onderwerp:* Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] FOSS4GNA - SOMEONE IS WATCHING YOU :-o
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>> Hey David,
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>> The emails on the mailing list were cultivated by past FOSS4G NA
>> attendees, people opting in in other ways, and from lists that were given
>> by members of this and last year's committee. If we're spamming people who
>> didn't opt in, it is not intentional and apologies for the spam (the world
>> certainly doesn't need more spam). We'll take a look at the list moving
>> forward to try to prevent from sending emails to anyone who didn't opt in.
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>> Thanks,
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>> Rob
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>> On Tue, Dec 15, 2015 at 2:48 PM, David Bianco <me at davidbianco.net> wrote:
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>> I believe MailChimp has policies against adding emails to your list
>> without a user's authorization.
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>> http://mailchimp.com/legal/acceptable_use/
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>> On Tue, Dec 15, 2015, at 10:16, Rob Emanuele wrote:
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>> Thanks for pointing out that it wasn't yet posted to OSGeo-Discuss, I
>> just posted it.
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>> There's a one-click unsubscribe button from that mailing list, sorry for
>> the spam!
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>> On Tue, Dec 15, 2015 at 12:31 PM, Massimiliano Cannata <
>> massimiliano.cannata at supsi.ch> wrote:
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>> Just a funny note...
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>> Nice to see that LocationTech has a FOSS4G email (!!!! WOW!!!!!)
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>> and.....
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>> that all the link on the received e-mail are connected with my user_id (I
>> have one????? Yes)
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>> and....
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>> that they are tracked (!!! without inform me !!!)
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>> and...
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>> that I have been added to a list that i'm not subscribed.... (
>> http://mailchimp.com/about/mcsv/)
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>> But...
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>> Where did they get my e-mail from?
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>> why thy didn't simply post the news to the discussion-osgeo list?
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>> what do they want to track?
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>> *If you want to see the FOSS4G-NA without been traced here is the
>> link https://2016.foss4g-na.org/ <https://2016.foss4g-na.org/>*
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>> #SPAM #NOT-SO-FAIR #LIKE-MICROSOFT-THAT-SPY-ME #SCARY
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>> Best,
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>> Maxi
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>> --
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>> *Massimiliano Cannata*
>>
>> Professore SUPSI in ingegneria Geomatica
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> --
> *Massimiliano Cannata*
>
> Professore SUPSI in ingegneria Geomatica
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> Responsabile settore Geomatica
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> Istituto scienze della Terra
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> Dipartimento ambiente costruzione e design
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> Scuola universitaria professionale della Svizzera italiana
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> Campus Trevano, CH - 6952 Canobbio
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