[OSGeo-Discuss] Discussion on statement : avoiding slang. Was: Drafting a Diversity statement for the foundation (call for input)

Tue Mar 31 00:58:52 PDT 2015

Hi Jachym,

... you can take your time in writing ...

That's correct, but often, this time is not available, having as a
result that some people don't speak up, because of difficult to express...

I often read a message and then postpone an answer with the idea ... if
I have some time later, I will participate on the discussion...
This time later is often wishful thinking :-)

Discussions a this help people to overcome these barriers, and the more
we practice, the better we will be able to participate!

so +1 for
 1. Should our Code of Conduct/Diversity statement mention that
>         we have a multilingual community?

and that we encourage people to participate!

D.

On 31-03-15 08:33, Jachym Cepicky wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> My experience within OSGeo was positive so far. At FOSS4G, sometimes
> people forget, that half of the crowd speaks English only occasionally,
> which can lead to misunderstandings.
> 
> Anyway: I would like to point out, that it is not only matter of
> writing, but also talking (at foss4gs, sprints, ...) In public but also
> in private, what can be even harder than writing (you can not take your
> time to figure out the best way how to express, what you need).
> 
> And yes, having something like that in CoC would be nice.
> 
> 
> J
> 
> 
> On Sun, Mar 29, 2015, 22:00 Andrea Aime <andrea.aime at geo-solutions.it
> <mailto:andrea.aime at geo-solutions.it>> wrote:
> 
>     On Sun, Mar 29, 2015 at 9:40 PM, Cameron Shorter
>     <cameron.shorter at gmail.com <mailto:cameron.shorter at gmail.com>> wrote:
> 
>         Thanks all for the feedback.
>         So my question is:
>         1. Should our Code of Conduct/Diversity statement mention that
>         we have a multilingual community?
> 
>     I believe it's still a good idea.
> 
>      
> 
> 
>         2. What should we recommend that all, and especially native
>         speakers do to make our community welcoming to non-native speakers?
> 
>     I'd suggest, just a reminder that the level of written English can
>     vary a lot, ranging from cases where the lack of fluency is
> 
>     evident, to cases where the sentence seems just too direct/rude, so
>     generally speaking, it's a good idea to try and be patient
> 
>     and understanding.
> 
>     Sometimes I wish there was a guide of typical
>     expectations/orientations varying culture by culture, to try
> 
>     and understand better where people are coming from and put what they
>     say in context (this example
> 
>      might be wrong or just a silly generalizations, but just to give
>     you an idea, I've heard
> 
>     Japanese normally won't say no in a conversation, you have to figure
>     it out, and other cultures surely
> 
>     have their "surprising" traits as well).
> 
>     Cheers
> 
>     Andrea
> 
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